A Quick Question on TIG Welding

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Guys just bought a cheap tig never used one before bought it mainly for its cutting ability, but figure i could try tig welding as well, when using tig filler rods are they same type of rods as used in oxy or are they more specialised apart from ones specifically for aluminum or stainless
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Yes and no.
You can get different grades of filler rods, ask for ones that are ''fully killed'' steel filler rods. They will have a light copper coating on them.
That is to say that they have very few imperfections in the steel.
If you use something like a coat hanger for instance, the weld will pop and bang because of pockets of imperfections in the wire.
Ask any competent welding supply shop for tig filler rods and they will set you up with the right ones you need as well as the tungsten rods you need.
 
bought it mainly for its cutting ability,

What is this that you bought, exactly? Sounds like a combo plasma cutter?

Some of those won't weld aluminum, they are essentially DC machines.
 
Sounds like a combo plasma cutter?
This is exactly what it is i mainly bought it as a plasma cutter as my mig is only about 2 years old and is a good brand for australia where as this plasma cutter is chinese and only cost $250 so if it does not work well as a tig or stick welder there is no problem as i also have a brand name stick welder that i have had since about 1983 and has had very little work, thanks for the info, i also need to get some straight argon so might be a while before i set up for tig,as i say i have never tig welded before so thought i might try it once i get this machine set up with all the bits it did not come with
 
Oxy Fuel rods have too many other components in the alloy for them to work with the electrical currents in a TIG. You'll get the same results with them, that Dartnut explained with the coat hanger analogy. I tried using some when I bought mine. It was more messy than just using my torch.

Aluminum not only requires AC current, but AC balance control (controls how much the current travels in each direction of the alternation, by percentage) and a really reasonable torch and machine with a duty cycle that can hold up. The tungsten will get way hotter than with DC.

Be sure to clean everything really well with a grinder, especially galvanized stuff or anything with a zinc coating or zinc in the alloy, like brass. It gets messy. There is a special silicon bronze rod that melts before brass to braze a brass joint and requires good amp control to not go over into brass melting point, so the zinc is stable, or it will be like a coat hanger as well. Also be sure not to touch the tip while it's hot enough to melt steel on contact, because the tungsten will absorb the work metal and it destroys the quality of the arc until the tip is resharpened. Be sure to sharpen the tungsten linearly, and not across it, so the arc will not wander and travel down the tip crooked.

If you are curious about a joint or material type/ thickness, try it out on scrap and research. Each joint type, material type and thickness require a variety of gas flow, tungsten stick out, tungsten type, gas lens or nozzle size, amp setting, filler rod and hand speed. Two different types of joints, even with the same metals and filler rods will sometimes require a quick change of torch settings and hand speed, so practicing and research is your best friend.
 
Thanks i got some actual tig welding rods for steel for my playing with not looking to use it full time as a tig as yet was looking to do some learning
 
What's the welded base material? The most common TIG filler for mild steel is going to be ER70-S2, which is also suitable for most welding of 4130, such as on some chassis components and roll cages. You can get ER70-S6, which has more cleaning agents, for dirtier metals, but that's a crutch for TIG. Twisted up MIG wire is common for small jobs using ER70-S6. Cleanliness is next to godliness for TIG, period.

Some stainless fillers, like ER309 are useful for welding dissimilar metals, such as mild to stainless. Hobart/Miller, Lincoln and most other filler manufacturers have charts for suitable filler for each base metal. S/F....Ken M
 
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