FABO guys I need someone to listen
rayer:
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To:
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Subject: RE: m301 & m302
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:34:49 -0500
Brad,
The only difference between the 360 LA and the 360 Magnum is going to be the front corners on the timing cover. We do not currently have a distributor that can offer us a 360 stock style core for the 360 Magnum block. The only magnum cores that we have to work with are rear sump cores, which would drive up the price of the pan considerably because of the extra fabrication that would be involved in the pan.
As far as installing our LA pan on your magnum block, the you should have no problem at all using a one piece Magnum gasket with a good Ultra Black silicone in the corners of the timing cover, as long as your surface is prepped well. Another option we have had guys doing is using 2 different type gaskets. for instance taking part number OS32115 one piece gasket, trimming the timing cover off the gasket and using the front seal from a Felpro 1807 Kit, then just using a thin patch of Ultra black at the seam. Both cures have both been effective to use.
I am sorry for your dissatisfaction with the Kevko product, if you do not feel comfortable installing it that way, please contact me, I will return your pan personally. If you decide to keep it, please send me your address and I will be sure you receive a Kevko T-shirt and can coozie. Thank you
Josh Ruby
www.kevkoracing.com
915 North Orient St.
Fairmont, MN 56031
(800) 770-3557
[email protected]
My reply to Josh at Kevko.....
Josh,
The only difference between the first Kevko oil pan CNC-Motorsports sent me (M301) and the second Kevko oil pan (M302) is the 5/8" gap between the rear main bearing cap where the oil pan seal is located between the Engine and the oil pan. Also, there is more than the issue of a gap at the front corners as you indicate. It is the entire section. See that big flange that is re the fly wheel bolts, not the harmonic balancer located in the front of the engine or timing cover. But, if anyone has taken the time to read my several e-mails and had even a little knowledge on engines, we'd be good to go.
Look at picture Kevko 3. That is the front of the engine, timing chain cover. The big orange bolt head is the harmonic balancer bolt. This is the front of the engine you refer to. As you can see the fit here is satisfactory with the M301. Picture Kevko 4 indicated the location of the sum is correct (centre sump) and I assume this location of the sump is compatible with the M301-1 oil pick up tube. Is that correct Josh?
Stay with me Josh. Picture Kevko 5 is the same enginwe block as shown in picture Kevko 3 with the big difference being the second kevko oil pan (M302). As you can clearly see the clearance is the same at the "front" of the engine for both the M301 & M302. Picture Kevko 6 is the same Magnum 5.9 engine rear. See the fly wheel flange again and the clearance between the rear main bearing cap (the place where the oild pan seal goes is satisfactory....while we are still looking at this picture not the location of the oild sump and keep in mind the oil trap door locations in that sump.
It going to get a bit technical here Josh & Jason....... Note the location & side of the sum the two drain plugs are located. Does that seem a bit out of place? It should because some oil pan expert has welded the Kevko oil sump on backwards and on the wrong end of correct (as far as mounting to the engine block goes correct) core oil pan. I know this how boys. I did not just fall off the turnip truck and the hinged baffle doors are in the position to allow engine oil to move aft (towards the back) away from the pick up tub under hard acceleration or racing. I know this is allot to digest at once but, I think it will benefit you both in the future.
Buddy Josh wrote:
"As far as installing our LA pan on your magnum block, the you should have no problem at all using a one piece Magnum gasket with a good Ultra Black silicone in the corners of the timing cover, as long as your surface is prepped well. Another option we have had guys doing is using 2 different type gaskets. for instance taking part number OS32115 one piece gasket, trimming the timing cover off the gasket and using the front seal from a Felpro 1807 Kit, then just using a thin patch of Ultra black at the seam. Both cures have both been effective to use."
You best ask for you job back at Wal-Mart as a greeter because you, In my opinion do not have enough automotive experience or knowledge to make a bag for a mosquitoe. I mean it. You, the oild pan expert should of picked that up in the first pictures I send you. If you think I'm going to risk my $13,000.00 engine on idiot rigging the gasket to cover yours or Kevko's cover up, well I got some swamp land upp's hair ( up here ) in Canada for you to buy. Cheap!
Sorry does cut it by either of you two self proclaimed experts. Sorry does not the cover my time dealing with you two idiots. I'm not dissatisfied with Kevko products. I'm dissatisfied with you two no minds. You must be smoking dope if you think I'm going to keep any Kevko oil pans, follow you crafty gasket suggestions or accept a Kevko T-shirt & coozie. Get your *** to rehab pal!
Now, you two experts figure out who is going to pick up the tab. That’s your problem. I will receive the correct oil pan for my application as so many others have in 12 days from today at a cost of a standard M301 or M302 less the $64.00 in return shipping cost. 12% HAST (tax) on the value to Canada Customs, (TWICE). Your luck I do not charge you two hours of my time as an Aircraft Engineer. I have every intention of going viral, public and to Master Card fraud investigations....
Thanks you for taking the time to talk to me Jan,
Brad Allore
(Very angry for being treated like a idiot)
