a loose convertor would affect both, I'd be interested to know what rpm he crossed at, that would be telling.
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He has RPMs left for sure. I would say at this point, he’s geared for the quarter and not the 8th mile
TT5.9mag --------- 16.90
jrc4y4 -------------- 15.30
dirty white boy-----15.15
71GSSDemon ----- 15.00
Sharpone ---------- 14.85
Killer6----------------14.81
69conv---------------14.80
496 polara --------- 14.78
Turbo440Dart ----- 14.70
70SwingerGuy------14.65
Mopar44134--------14.605
mopowers---------- 14.53
Curious Duster ---- 14.50
red67gts ----------- 14.40
MOPARMAGA ------ 14.32
a-bodyguy --------- 14.319
67/6barracuda ---- 14.20
skep419 ------------ 14.12
junkyardhero ------ 14.00
440 Mike ----------- 13.90
fishmen67 --------- 13.80
sr71mopar---------- 13.75
273 ----------------- 13.70
Garrett Ellison------13.58
331MP ------------- 13.40
Illahe——————— 13.30
RustyRatRod ------ 13.016
jrc4y4 -------------- 15.30
dirty white boy-----15.15
71GSSDemon ----- 15.00
Sharpone ---------- 14.85
Killer6----------------14.81
69conv---------------14.80
496 polara --------- 14.78
Turbo440Dart ----- 14.70
70SwingerGuy------14.65
Mopar44134--------14.605
mopowers---------- 14.53
Curious Duster ---- 14.50
red67gts ----------- 14.40
MOPARMAGA ------ 14.32
a-bodyguy --------- 14.319
67/6barracuda ---- 14.20
skep419 ------------ 14.12
junkyardhero ------ 14.00
440 Mike ----------- 13.90
fishmen67 --------- 13.80
sr71mopar---------- 13.75
273 ----------------- 13.70
Garrett Ellison------13.58
331MP ------------- 13.40
Illahe——————— 13.30
RustyRatRod ------ 13.016
Does no good if he's powering through the convertor.
I don’t think he’s going through the converter. But I could be wrong.
So you're just saying he's slow for a supposed 500 hp. lol
Well, I’m just saying the 500 hp didn’t show up at the track
How do you know that 500hp didn't show up at the track?
It wouldn't be the first time. lol
I suspect there's a bunch coming off newbombs dyno. lol
This is a talking circle conversation lol. I’m on record of saying 87 mile an hour at 3665 isn’t 500 horse. I do not know how much clearer, or any other way, or any other language in which I can speak it. He did not smoke his tires for the first 400 feet. He did not cough or sputter for the first 400 feet. If to you, it takes 500 hp to run 87 miles an hour in a 3600 pound vehicle then I must have about 470 hp 5.9 with 200,000 miles and a 100% never disassembled bottom end.
It wouldn't be the first time. lol
I suspect there's a bunch coming off newbombs dyno. lol
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You're making the assumption that there can be no reason except a lack of crankshaft measured horsepower for his disappointing ET.
Mile per hour, not really focusing on the ET. However… Then it’s up to you to provide the reason. I said that it could be one of 100 things. I never said it did not make 500 hp. Never. I said it didn’t show up at the track.
I look at the dyno as an "observation of maximum potential in a controlled environment. Aka, 'a Laboratory environment.'"
Harnessing the "maximum potential" is what separates the field across a given class. For me, I am consumed by the "yield" SS/ and GT/ class cars get from their "class legal" powerplants.
Harnessing the "maximum potential" is what separates the field across a given class. For me, I am consumed by the "yield" SS/ and GT/ class cars get from their "class legal" powerplants.
Too many external variables to place ET on HP alone.
For instance, I hypothesize that two 375hp 340ci engines mechanically spec'd identical (except for oil scavenging) tested in the same vehicle will have different ET's separated by the rate of acceleration from "inadequate/or adequate" oil scavenging from the rotating assembly.
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By the way, what proof do you have that it made 500 hp at the crank? let’s start reversing the conversation. Your turn to prove to me he made 500 horse at the trac. Use the ET slip. Apparently you’re not interested in the mile per hour so then we’ll look at the ET. Looks like he’s running consistent 7.8s and the eighth.
Yea mph is what it is, ET has nothing to do with it.
HP is mph, not ET. but you know that
Thank you, I should have had a better understating. I had not thought about the relationship between MPH /ET in that manner, because I don't always "stay in it" through the second light.
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Here is what is amazing to me. None of the people with dynos will say 87 mph at 3600 pounds is way off from what 500 hp should run. Not a one of them. At some point, there’s just not a level of honesty. If that engine was never Dynoed, and some random guy on this site posted he had 500 horse that he guessed and ran 87 mph in the same scenario, he would be eaten alive by people stating he didn’t have close to 500 horse. But because he visited a Dyno, that engine cannot be challenged. You are an anti-Dino Matic if you dare challenge the Dino number. Which ironically, I have not I just said that’s not showing up at the track.
Because it’s not the dyno numbers that are wrong.
Not at all. It doesn’t invalidate a thing.
Just like the numbers you get at the track from spring to the dog days of summer.
Does your stuff run the same MPH at 60 degrees as it does at 98 degrees?
If not then your track numbers are bogus and you are wasting your time.
Still didn’t show up at the track. Even if it’s because his throttle linkage is only opening the carburetor half open. That’s still not 500 horses. And I’m still not blaming the Dyno
LOL… this post cracked me up. We’ll throw out the ET slip before we throw out the Dino sheet! Truth is, the difference between a good day and a bad day at the track maybe only 1 mph and that is because there is truly a loss of horsepower so the mile per hour will go down. The exception would be a strong headwind that would affect the mile per hour without the engine being affected. This would show less horsepower than it was due to the headwind that isn’t considered in Wallace. but now we’re looking into the exceptions, and not the rule.
There is no way of us possibly knowing that, could be 450 on your dyno.
Are you operating an honest dyno?
or 2.
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