Disc Brake Conversion Kit Comparison

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cidVicious

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This is just my opionion, but stopping is just as important (if not more) as going fast. Out there on the freeway, our little drum brake equipped A-bodies are competing with modern vehicles with high-tech suspensions and high-quality, four-wheel disc brake systems. And I'm pretty sure that other drivers don't give a $#!% if you can't stop quickly when they swerve in front of you.

I haven't tried these, but Summit Racing has Wilwood A body drum spindle disc brake conversion kits (no, I'm not a Summit or Wilwood rep, just using them as an example):

Brake Kit No.: 140-11022-D (for OEM 9" inch drum brake spindles)
http://wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-11022-D

Brake Kit No.: 140-11023-D (for OEM 10" inch drum brake spindles)
http://wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-11023-D

They are apparently an easy swap and give you the option of using either the small or large bolt-pattern (nice to have the choice). Yes I agree that they are expensive, but you are getting brand new disc brakes, not a collection of old, used parts. By the time you figure in tracking down and upgrading all of those old, greasy, rusty components from a donor vehicle (yeah, I've been doing that too), these new conversion kits don't seem as expensive as you might think. I assume they have some kind of warranty also which you don't get from an old donor vehicle.

There seems to be a number of other companies out there with conversion kits (e.g. SSB). Has anyone ever done a one-to-one comparision of the various kits that are available? What is the best conversion kit, best price, most options (e.g. can I use either bolt pattern?), best warranty, etc.? If so, can someone point to it?

It would also be nice to see what someone has to REALLY spend in time and money to find and clean up an old set of parts off a 40 year old donor car. Depending on the parts used, using old parts can also result in a cost to accomodate steering and suspension adjustments along the way or potentially having to buy a new set of wheels and tires. It seems that there are a number of variables to consider here. Okay, some of us like to clean up and refurbish the old stuff, there's certainly something to be said about the personal pride and accomplishment gained by finding and fixing the old stuff.

I like to save money as much as the next guy, but brakes are important, and if you are going to upgrade your braking system, think about the REAL cost of not being able to stop when it's really needed (don't skimp on brakes). I'll step down off my soap box now, but I really would like to see a comparison table of the various kits that are out there if anyone has one.
 
Do a search here for Scarebird brakes. That's the way I was gonna go, BUT the guy isn't sure if 14 Cragar SS's will fit. Says they might. Also he won't give a phone number or call you. I don't like spending that much time and dough without speaking to a human. Maybe I'm just old.

I can tell you that he obviously has done a TON of R&D, and lots of guys love the set up. I met a guy at Norwalk last fall running low 9's with the conversion. Raved about it. Way under a grand with all new parts. I mean waaay under.

If I knew for sure that my wheels would work, I buy the system in a New York minute.
 
Thanks Guys,

Looks like these are both good companies depending on what you are looking for.

Here's a start to a company comparison.

Company: BAER BRAKE SYSTEMS
Web: http://www.baer.com/
Email: Use online form
Phone: (602) 233-1411
Location: Baer, Inc. 2222 W. Peoria Ave. Suite B, Phoenix, AZ 85029, USA
Kits: Call about Mopar A body kits
Tips: See Baer FAQs at http://www.baer.com/technical/faq/index.php

Company: WILWOOD ENGINEERING, INC.
Web: http://wilwood.com/
Email: [email protected]
Phone: (805) 388-1188
Location: 4700 Calle Bolero, Camarillo, CA 93012, USA
Kits: Use Website to find brake kits for your specific year, make & model
Tips: Note impact on wheel sizes. Check for better prices through distributers.

Company: SSBC PERFORMANCE BRAKE SYSTEMS
Web: http://www.ssbrakes.com
Email: [email protected]
Phone: (800) 448-7722
Location: 11470 Main Street, Clarence, NY 14031, USA
Kits: See Classic Musle Car kits W153-6 & W153-7

Company: SCAREDBIRD CLASSIC BRAKES LLC
Web: http://scarebird.com/
Email: [email protected]
Location: Lynnwood, WA 98035-7206, USA
Kits: 1960-72 Mopar 9" A body and 1965-72 Mopar 10" A body (http://scarebird.com/index.php?id=29)

Hopefully FABO fans will continue to build on this list with recommendations for the best companies for disc brake conversion kits.
 
I used wilwwod on a car a few yearfs ago and took
them off - hated

been using Right stuff detailing kits since - new factory stuff
and can buy them anyway you like
 
Do a search here for Scarebird brakes. That's the way I was gonna go, BUT the guy isn't sure if 14 Cragar SS's will fit. Says they might. Also he won't give a phone number or call you. I don't like spending that much time and dough without speaking to a human. Maybe I'm just old.

I can tell you that he obviously has done a TON of R&D, and lots of guys love the set up. I met a guy at Norwalk last fall running low 9's with the conversion. Raved about it. Way under a grand with all new parts. I mean waaay under.

If I knew for sure that my wheels would work, I buy the system in a New York minute.

you can just order the scarebird brackets for $105 and get some junkyard chevy calipers to mock it up with and see if your wheels will fit, if they dont you could easily sell the brackets on FABO I would think


as far as comparing cost if you want big bolt circle 5X4 1/2" the factory set up is the way to go, just buy all new parts, calipers, rotors, pads, bearings, hoses, even ball joints, and control arm bushings while you are at it if you want, the only "old used parts" you need to reuse are the spindles, it doesnt matter if they are factory disk brake spindles or a kit that adapts disk brakes to factory drum brake spindles
 
I went with factory parts. I had picked up a 73 Dart parts car that donated the uca, spindles, adapter and dust shield. Everything else was new or rebuilt.

Rotors were $90 (45 each), new wheel bearings and seals were $25 for both sides, loaded rebuilt calipers $60 ($30 each), rebuilt MC was $20 and hoses were $30 ($15 each).
 
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