WAYNE0
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Need to get a real nice pair of shocks for my barracuda. What do you guys recommend ?
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For what type of use? Drag or handling?
As said, Bilsteins are good for handling; Viking adjustables are decent for drag, depending on the rest of your setup.
Back in my day for drag you used 6 cyl. bars and the loosest, most worn out shocks you could lay your hands on... how times have changed!
As said, Bilsteins are good for handling; Viking adjustables are decent for drag, depending on the rest of your setup.
Back in my day for drag you used 6 cyl. bars and the loosest, most worn out shocks you could lay your hands on... how times have changed!
WAYNE0
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Just a nice driving handling street car. The rear is the RMS set up.
Jeremiah (jd)
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The best shocks don't have gas in them. I would look at qa1 or Viking or call AFCO.
A double adjustable shock. Not a single adjustable shock.
Make sure you can tune the shock and learn to tune with it.
A non adjustable shock is about as useful as a carb that you can’t change jets with. That wouldn’t make any sense.
Neither does a shock you can’t adjust.
Make sure you can tune the shock and learn to tune with it.
A non adjustable shock is about as useful as a carb that you can’t change jets with. That wouldn’t make any sense.
Neither does a shock you can’t adjust.
bilsteins are about the best non adjustable unit you can buy. after that viking, strange, qa1, spax and ridetech all offer adjustable units.
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Red X. He said street car. You don’t need some expensive *** adjustable shocks for a street car. The RCD’s are just fine for a street car. If he said some AutoX time often, and scaling the car for corner weights, then yes stepping up would be good. If I remember correctly, some asshole jumped my street car just fine on a back road with some RCD shocks…
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Not trying to bust balls but there are a ton of threads on this. One as recently as of two week ago. Just saying.
SixPaksRule
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See post #7, there are 3 kinds of shocks
cheap, crappy ride
non adjustable but works pretty good Bilstein
adjustable - tunes the ride
Real street cars - faster than they look, set up for ride drive handling get adjustable. Old turds get cheap kybs or monroes, middle of the road street cars get bilsteins
cheap, crappy ride
non adjustable but works pretty good Bilstein
adjustable - tunes the ride
Real street cars - faster than they look, set up for ride drive handling get adjustable. Old turds get cheap kybs or monroes, middle of the road street cars get bilsteins
Icetech
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Red X. He said street car. You don’t need some expensive *** adjustable shocks for a street car. The RCD’s are just fine for a street car. If he said some AutoX time often, and scaling the car for corner weights, then yes stepping up would be good. If I remember correctly, some asshole jumped my street car just fine on a back road with some RCD shocks…
As I said, a non adjustable shock is useless. No two cars are the same and no two drivers want the same.
It’s 2025 and guys still want to buy non adjustable **** to save a few bucks.
I’ll never understand that.
Just make sure the next carb you buy or the next EFI you get isnt adjustable.
That’s the same thing. That would be idiotic, moronic and senseless and no one would suggest saving a few bucks for that.
One last word. Because most guys have never had adjustable shocks they can’t see the value in them. There is difference between price and value.
Buying non adjustable shocks is misguided at best.
Icetech
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As a car that's just being driven on the street, no corner carving.. not going to the track.. why would i need adjustable shocks? and i am not arguing i am honestly curious, i went with non adjustable and the car rides great.. which is all i want out of a shock..
can i hold you to that?
No…HELL NO lol.
dude's got an RMS out back, i think the front rates a little better than what most of us slop jockys run on our budget beaters.
i figured it was at least worth a try...
Yes. How much are these God sent Bilstien’s? How much money is he saving?
Did you read that he spent the big money on the RMS suspension but the “I’ll step over a donut to grab a dog turd” crowd comes along and thinks they are doing this guy a favor telling him to buy a non adjustable shock.
I’d bet everything I have the guys telling him to not buy an adjustable shock have never driven a car with adjustable shocks on the street and actually tuned them.
If they had they would say all the bullshit that they are.
Icetech
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No.. there is nothing in this thread about him having RMS til someone mentioned it 30 seconds ago
Also... i just asked why adjustable is soo much better for a normal street driven car and what i got back is basically they aren't cheap? that's not a real answer from a "Why" standpoint..
post #5 hombre
and you'd lose that bet.
i've driven, built and tuned suspension for the street and track.
again, the bilsteins are about the best non-adjustable shock on the market for the money. they'll cover a wide range of wheel rates and are perfectly acceptable for street and track.
No.. there is nothing in this thread about him having RMS til someone mentioned it 30 seconds ago
Also... i just asked why adjustable is soo much better for a normal street driven car and what i got back is basically they aren't cheap? that's not a real answer from a "Why" standpoint..
He said it in post 5.
As near as I can find the Bilstein RCD is about 500ish a set. A set of Vikings are about 900ish if you shop around.
Is the 80% cost increase worth it. I say yes.
You are asking why so ill see if I can.
The way is a shock has to dampen both directions. I say bump and rebound because I grew up riding dirt bikes. You can say compression and extension if you want to talk with engineers.
Let’s say you smack a good sized bump. You want the shock to suck it up and not upset the car taking the hit. Thats bump or compression. Don’t forget you are using the shock to control the motion and energy of the spring…
So…now the shock just got nailed in bump (compression) and the spring is now loaded more than it was before the bump. So the spring is trying to force the suspension (and the shock) to go back to it’s normal position, where it was before the bump.
If you didn’t have a shock at all, the spring would move very fast and force the suspension and the body of the car back apart. And then the suspension would have the opposite reaction and it will try to compress the spring again and demos, but with less force (energy). And the cycle continues until all the energy in the spring is used up and the chassis settles down again until the next event.
With an adjustable shock you can control both bump and rebound to tailor the ride exactly how you want it. Or as close as the valving will let you.
A single adjustable shock is equally worthless. You can adjust it, but you are changing the bump and the rebound together. And who says you WANT to change both? Very rare are the cases when I’ve wanted to change the bump and rebound together in a fixed amount. It blows my mind that guys can’t grasp that bump and rebound need to be tuned as separate circuits.
Why does this matter on the street? Because you can easily tune the shock to do exactly what you want it to do. If you like going into corners hot and by hot I don’t mean canyon carving, balls out road race cornering. I’m just saying driving like you have a performance car.
You can control bump (compression) but stiffening the dampening so the chassis doesnt roll up on the outside tire.
You can adjust the rebound (extension) so one the spring is loaded it doesn’t push back with enough force to upset the chassis.
And you adjust them separately so one doesn’t affect the other. You can’t do that with a non adjustable or single adjustable shock.
Like I said, I grew up riding dirt bikes and I know when forks and shocks started coming with external adjustment on them.
It revolutionized riding. You could tailor the bike (chassis) to you weight, speed and riding skill like you never could before.
I would never suggest to anyone to buy a dirt bike without adjustable suspension. That would be caveman ****.
It’s not different with a car.
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