Hauling an engine on a stand?

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So tomorrow morning, I'm going out to pick up a 318 engine about 40 miles away, and I could use a little advice on the actual hauling part. I will be going out there in a 1-ton pickup, and have never hauled an engine before. My plan is to put the engine on my little AC Delco engine stand and secure it with ratchet straps. The main concern is not rolling around, but rather it tipping over due to the high center of gravity (I'll be driving on a less-straight highway). I thought if I can get a ratchet strap to each corner of the bed, I'll be okay. What are your guys' thoughts?
 
Pluck all that. Throw an old tire on the bed and sit the engine on that. It won't move.
 
RustyRatRod said:
Pluck all that. Throw an old tire on the bed and sit the engine on that. It won't move.
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Thirds! Mount the yoke to the motor and put it so you can maneuver the yoke to the tailgate, then you take the stand on the ground and roll it right into the yoke. Might be able to get it off mounted to the frame without having to use a picker. Works on a mini truck, yours is most likely higher though.
 
Tire. Tie it down with about twice as many straps as you think you need. If possible put it against the cab. If possible put a scrap board/ plywood even a couple of 2x between the engine and front of the bed to take up load. Remember, a panic stop is your worst case deal. You don't want it "back there" against the tailgate if possible.

DO NOT UNDER any circumstances attempt to haul that thing on an engine stand.
 
Alright, tire it is. I would build one of those stands (and I probably will later), but I'm picking the engine up first thing in the morning, so I don't really have time. I'll bring a pile of straps and some 2x4's to hold it in place. Thanks guys!
 
One of the guys on here had some photos of a fairly simple wood stand. Not sure how stable it would be, tho in a haul
 
No, I haven't even gone out yet (I'm in AKT... 4 hours behind EST), and I still need to get some things together. Of course, a teenager's definition of morning is much different than your guys' :)
 
barbee6043 said:
o k I,m late. me five! old tire!
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One reason my joint is so damn junky. When I did HVAC service, I can remember a couple of garages, walking through to get to the house or back yard.

Inside was a car, a garbage can and a garden hose, LMAO. I would not know what to do !!
 
Nice! That engine looks pretty good.

The old tire trick came through again. Glad you got it back safely.
 
It sure did! The engine is pretty clean, but there's a couple concerning things about it that I'll probably post about in the engine forums: The harmonic balancer bolt is missing, and the fuel pump is damaged (which may have been on my end of things, not sure). Otherwise, I'm very happy with how things turned out! I'm in no rush to drop the motor into anything, so I can take my time and go through it and make sure it was rebuilt right. Thanks for all the help guys, cheers!
 
nice job junior

just a few tips/questions

first of, that is a cast iron water pump on there
nothing wrong with that, AS LONG as it goes into a 69 or older car
in a newer car, the radiator intake is on the wrong side

now, speaking of wrong side, what is the deal with that oil pan?
I don't believe I have ever seen a front sump pan before, would you mind doing me a favor and having a close look at the way the pan follows the crank (think front and rear main seals)
actually, look at that second picture you posted...I think I see sunlight between the pan and the crank
now, not a big deal, since you need to swap over to a center sump pan to run it in anything other than a truck BUT if this is the quality of the work from the rebuilder...well, I would rip it apart and re-do it
 
Years ago was visiting a buddy. He was pretty drunk...drunk enough to not drive. He had the 440 that was going in his Challenger in the back of his beat her with a heater pick up. Asked me if I could drop the motor off at the shop that was going thru it. Looked in the back of the truck...was on a tire, just inside the tail gate. Not tied in. I was on a workman comp claim, tore my back up, so there was no way I was going to hop up in the bed and move it to the front, nor tie it in.
Had just gotten up to the speed limit, 45mph, when I had a kid on a bike come out between 2 parked cars. On the brakes...and here it comes...hit the front of the bed hard enough that it came thru it....and the back wall of the cab...blew out the back window as well. Went to the machine shop...we just stood there and laughed....
NEVER TRANSPORT SOMETHING IN A TRUCK WITHOUT STRAPPING IT DOWN!
Have been riding street bikes for 35 years....have had to dodge more than my fair share of crap that wasn't tied in. Shovels, toilets, ladders, furniture...good times....
Here in Washington state the dump has the right to turn you around if your load is not restrained/tarped...have talked to more than one person who was ticketed for not securing a load...
 
diymirage said:
nice job junior

just a few tips/questions

first of, that is a cast iron water pump on there
nothing wrong with that, AS LONG as it goes into a 69 or older car
in a newer car, the radiator intake is on the wrong side

now, speaking of wrong side, what is the deal with that oil pan?
I don't believe I have ever seen a front sump pan before, would you mind doing me a favor and having a close look at the way the pan follows the crank (think front and rear main seals)
actually, look at that second picture you posted...I think I see sunlight between the pan and the crank
now, not a big deal, since you need to swap over to a center sump pan to run it in anything other than a truck BUT if this is the quality of the work from the rebuilder...well, I would rip it apart and re-do it
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Good points...

The valve covers are on the wrong sides. The one with the tabs for the electrical wires goes on the passenger side for the harness that goes from the firewall to the alternator and horns. Those valve covers are from a 67-68...

That vibration damper and pulley look funny coming out of the front of the engine - something doesn't look right. I would need to see a better picture of it from the side in a closer view to see what's going on.

I agree that it should be looked at before installing in a car... Are the pistons in correctly or backwards if he got the valve covers and oil pan backwards???

The front of the engine is set up for a 64 - 69 vintage car. There are no timing marks on the timing chain cover, you will need to get a timing tab from a 64 - 68 small block that bolts onto the two lower water pump bolts. 69 had the marks cast into the timing cover. In 70 the marks changed sides.

If you want to install this in a 70 and later car, I would replace the timing chain cover and water pump to the later style with the timing marks on the opposite side and aluminum water pump.

Here's where he can get a new crank bolt and washer:

Mopar Performance Crank Bolt, 2.25" Long


It's a nice engine, just make sure it's right before you install it....
 
inkjunkie said:
Have been riding street bikes for 35 years....have had to dodge more than my fair share of crap that wasn't tied in. Shovels, toilets, ladders, furniture...good times....
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no kidding, it never ceases to amaze me how close people will tailgate me when I'm hauling my trailer
now, I know I strap stuff down right, and I know I inspect before each and replace my ratchet straps when needed
but THE PERSON BEHIND ME DOESNT KNOW THIS
always cracks me up how much they trust me, because I sure wouldn't trust anyone else
 
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