Gen2Cudas
Well-Known Member
Evening all. Been under our daughter's /6 'vert most of the day- and for the second time in a month or so. Picked up a full tank of E10 at a Wally World down here where we live back in late Feb. . .been using the place for years. . .and the slant started to cough and miss before we got out of the parking lot with it. Cursed and got the fuel dry into it- but it continued to give us fits off and on- like when climbing a hill. Finally couldn't stand it, started at the carb and pumped a beer bottle worth of the tank out through the hose after the filter (with the fuel pump with the coil wire pulled). Cloudy, then cleared with a 1/2 inch of water at the bottom of the bottle. Idle fine, but throttle up and it quits, drop in gear and quits, or stutters bad, no power just trying to hold 2000 RPM. . .
Got busy, got the tank pumped out, blew the lines, opened and cleaned the carb, new filter, poured some good gas to get it started and ran it down for a tankful from another place we use. Kept the bottle, figuring to show to the manager at the first place and negotiate a repayment. . .
Still having engine stutters, hard starting, some stalling. More fuel dry and Chemtool to get the rest of the water I missed. . .Run okay to drive around town- but on occasion a cough or stutter, or hard to keep running without racing the motor a bit . . .
Sat up for about 2 weeks; got it out, running okay, whole family in, drive around low speed backroads for a bit. . .then hit the local highway and Phooey! Stuttering, coughing, running on 3 or 4, barely able to keep it running long enough to get back to the house. Curse, go get more fuel dry and new filter. Pumped some into a container, appears clear. . .get stuff on it and in it, runs okay, test drive down 2 miles for a beer to celebrate- and simply will not start and run after we get back into it. Miss, backfire, stall, nothing and no way. Finally forced the poor thing down the road after a downhill run and abusing the starter like mad- will run after a fashion with a neutral start and drop in. . .then died next to the road with a carful. Just getting ready to tow it home and wife suggests try it- damn thing starts. Been sitting for about 30 mins. . .almost immediately starts running like before, but able to coax it to the house.
Pumped the tank for the second time. Checked the sending unit sock for obstruction while I was going that far too. Samples looked clear. . .then the sample I had taken the night before sitting on my bench uncapped for 15 hours suddenly went cloudy when I picked it up- and out coalesced a thimbleful of water! It was about 70 today with 30% humidity. . .not raining at the time. . .
Got under and pumped out the rest of the fuel in the tank from the sending hole- that went into a big bottle and capped- and damned if that stuff went cloudy and out drops about 4 thimble fulls of water after 30 mins setting there. Swabbed the tank dry too.
So, here I am, dry tank, clean lines, new filter, different sending unit in with good sock, new seal for tank, all lines hooked up- and scared to pour any more of this crap E10 into my girl's Barracuda 'vert. Obviously, gonna try a third station. . .
Any ideas guys? What in Heck are they selling us for fuel?!? My F-150 is running fine- but is down 1.2 mpg, a friend is down 2 mpg in an HHR 4 banger- and I have a slanty that seems totally allergic to this damned stuff!
Been reading up on this crap and have found how water loving and unstable this stuff is already. Thinking about putting a water filter system in at about $104 or so. . .and wondering what to pour all this stuff I have in gas cans through before I use it in my lawn mowers. Cheese cloth?
Or, make Molotov cocktails with it- if it will burn. . .;-)
Mike
Got busy, got the tank pumped out, blew the lines, opened and cleaned the carb, new filter, poured some good gas to get it started and ran it down for a tankful from another place we use. Kept the bottle, figuring to show to the manager at the first place and negotiate a repayment. . .
Still having engine stutters, hard starting, some stalling. More fuel dry and Chemtool to get the rest of the water I missed. . .Run okay to drive around town- but on occasion a cough or stutter, or hard to keep running without racing the motor a bit . . .
Sat up for about 2 weeks; got it out, running okay, whole family in, drive around low speed backroads for a bit. . .then hit the local highway and Phooey! Stuttering, coughing, running on 3 or 4, barely able to keep it running long enough to get back to the house. Curse, go get more fuel dry and new filter. Pumped some into a container, appears clear. . .get stuff on it and in it, runs okay, test drive down 2 miles for a beer to celebrate- and simply will not start and run after we get back into it. Miss, backfire, stall, nothing and no way. Finally forced the poor thing down the road after a downhill run and abusing the starter like mad- will run after a fashion with a neutral start and drop in. . .then died next to the road with a carful. Just getting ready to tow it home and wife suggests try it- damn thing starts. Been sitting for about 30 mins. . .almost immediately starts running like before, but able to coax it to the house.
Pumped the tank for the second time. Checked the sending unit sock for obstruction while I was going that far too. Samples looked clear. . .then the sample I had taken the night before sitting on my bench uncapped for 15 hours suddenly went cloudy when I picked it up- and out coalesced a thimbleful of water! It was about 70 today with 30% humidity. . .not raining at the time. . .
Got under and pumped out the rest of the fuel in the tank from the sending hole- that went into a big bottle and capped- and damned if that stuff went cloudy and out drops about 4 thimble fulls of water after 30 mins setting there. Swabbed the tank dry too.
So, here I am, dry tank, clean lines, new filter, different sending unit in with good sock, new seal for tank, all lines hooked up- and scared to pour any more of this crap E10 into my girl's Barracuda 'vert. Obviously, gonna try a third station. . .
Any ideas guys? What in Heck are they selling us for fuel?!? My F-150 is running fine- but is down 1.2 mpg, a friend is down 2 mpg in an HHR 4 banger- and I have a slanty that seems totally allergic to this damned stuff!
Been reading up on this crap and have found how water loving and unstable this stuff is already. Thinking about putting a water filter system in at about $104 or so. . .and wondering what to pour all this stuff I have in gas cans through before I use it in my lawn mowers. Cheese cloth?
Or, make Molotov cocktails with it- if it will burn. . .;-)
Mike