Iron drivers side exit water pump and Saginaw PSP

[67notchb]

Has anyone put a Saginaw PSP on an engine with an iron, drivers side exit water pump? I want to do this setup with a new borgison 14:1 box and Saginaw pump with correct brackets from Bergman but the pulley is about 5/8” out of alignment. Anyone use a different pulley to make this setup work? The picture is of my current setup. Thanks all in advance for your time and input.

 

[Dana67Dart]

Shim everything else forward 5/8 of an inch?

 

[67notchb]

I thought of that and if I can I will but I was wondering if others have used a different pulley to get the alignment closer.

 

[67notchb]

Yes I do have the Saginaw pump but need the correct pulley and brackets for my application to get everything to line up.

 

[RAT ROD AL]

I have these for a Saginaw pump.
These fit Aluminum W/P. don't know if it would work with Cast iron.

 

[67notchb]

Are they for a setup like mine with an iron drivers side exit water pump or for an aluminum passenger side exit water pump?

 

[RAT ROD AL]

Are they for a setup like mine with an iron drivers side exit water pump or for an aluminum passenger side exit water pump?

I just edited .

 

[RAT ROD AL]

 

[67notchb]

Thanks but there are different brackets for the different water pumps and they can’t be used interchangeably.

 

[RAT ROD AL]

 

[RAT ROD AL]

Thanks but there are different brackets for the different water pumps and they can’t be used interchangeably.

If you can post pics of them , I have a big box full of P/S brackets . All different kinds.

 

[SGBARRACUDA]

With a iron WP you need the saginaw set up off a 1968 318. I have one if you need it

 

[plymouth4onthefloor]

View attachment 1715683931 Mancini bracket and selfmade crank pulley in a 64' Valiant 340-6, cast 340 manifolds:

 

[chrgdrt]

Google search “ps008”. That is the bracket you need. Doing that conversion on my 67 right now. I can get you some pics later today if you like
Add “mopar” to that search, will narrow it down.

 

[67notchb]

thanks for the reply’s

View attachment 1715683931 Mancini bracket and selfmade crank pulley in a 64' Valiant 340-6, cast 340 manifolds:

That is a really nice setup exactly what I am lookin for. Did you try finding the correct PSP pulley or making your own rather than milling a new crankshaft pulley or was it easier to do that?

Google search “ps008”. That is the bracket you need. Doing that conversion on my 67 right now. I can get you some pics later today if you like
Add “molar” to that search, will narrow it down.

I see there a few different places to get the brackets but I don’t see any suggestions for pulleys which seem to be the issue.

 

[chrgdrt]

thanks for the reply’s




I see there a few different places to get the brackets but I don’t see any suggestions for pulleys which seem to be the issue.

Which pulley do you have now?, is the shaft keyed or is the pulley pressed on?
Buochillon has a few pulleys

 

[67notchb]

I have this keyed pulley but talking with Bergman when used with this setup it’s 5/8” out of alignment and a different pulley is needed. Power Steering Pulley - Bergman Auto Craft

 

[chrgdrt]

Usually the alt belt is closest to the engine and the ps belt is forward of that. Your setup looks to be the opposite, any chance you can move your alt in and use the outer pulley on the crank for the ps? Would it line up then?

 

[67notchb]

I didn’t realize my setup was opposite, thanks for bringing that to my attention. Once I get the correct brackets I’ll try it

 

[plymouth4onthefloor]

The pump pulley is the one from Borgeson. With the bracket, it lines up perfect. You'll have to find a used early crank pulley, nobody makes them anymore.

 

[chrgdrt]

March Performance - Chrysler 273-318-340 : Double Groove Crank V-Belt Pulley

march has a complete set or individuals

March Performance - V-Belt Pulleys - Pulleys - Chrysler Small Block 318-340-360 - Chrysler

or CVF Chrysler Small Block Engine Accessories | V-Belt Pulley Kits

 

[oldkimmer]

I should have that crank pulley

 

[67notchb]

The pump pulley is the one from Borgeson. With the bracket, it lines up perfect. You'll have to find a used early crank pulley, nobody makes them anymore.

So its the crank pulley that could be replaced to align everything better rather than the psp?

I should have that crank pulley

If you do could you send a picture of it?

 

[plymouth4onthefloor]

Be carefull they sell underdrive pulleys, check diameter before buying. Early and late pulleys have a 1/2 inch different height.

 

[autoxcuda]

I have these for a Saginaw pump.
These fit Aluminum W/P. don't know if it would work with Cast iron.

View attachment 1715683836

that’s the setup for aluminum water pump. Not sure if there’s a slightly different style for a/c and non a/c.