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This is how bad the inners look.
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Take the fenders off you will see where the inners are spot welded to the frame and core support also the cowl. Looks like the flange from the cowl is still there that's good.
My car is the same inners and was just looking at it you will do fine cutting the inners out SLO a piece of cake compared to everything you've done so far.
Ya I remember that view from the Modern Hemi Forum. AMD sure seem to be all over the board on pricing. I saw one off the wall outfit had them for $230 or something. I ALWAYS wait until I have the part in my hand before I start the removal process unless it's like a boxside that I've done a 100 times.
It will be easy for you SLO. Once you get into it and the wheels start turning it will be nothing compared to what you have already done. Sometimes I will air hammer off all I can, to be able to get to the spot welds better. Grinding them with a cut-off wheel usually gives the cleanest results but if the metal is heavy enough underneath, sometime you can just whittle off the plug weld with an air-chisel . I have a real slow powerful long stroke air-chisel and a bit that is thin and that I keep pretty sharp. Sometimes I can cut the weld flush with the metal. Once you start grinding the plug welds you will get the hang of it. You can kind of see it. Maybe its the difference in the color of the metal as it heats up. Don't use those super thin (1/32) cut-off wheels man you will eat them up like crazy. Sometimes I use the thicker one (3/16) but 1/16 seems to work good or a combination of the two.
Man those reversible grinders are nice for keeping the sparks away from your body. Your probably gonna have to screw it together in some places. I always hate doing that. When you do, use one of your pre-drilled spot weld holes so you can get the screw hole welded good otherwise you just have this little 1/8 inch hole that is hard to get penetration on the other side. Those drill srews are handy for that. Plug weld should be about 1/4 to 5/16. 1/4 just seems too small for me. OK I've bored you all enough.
It will be easy for you SLO. Once you get into it and the wheels start turning it will be nothing compared to what you have already done. Sometimes I will air hammer off all I can, to be able to get to the spot welds better. Grinding them with a cut-off wheel usually gives the cleanest results but if the metal is heavy enough underneath, sometime you can just whittle off the plug weld with an air-chisel . I have a real slow powerful long stroke air-chisel and a bit that is thin and that I keep pretty sharp. Sometimes I can cut the weld flush with the metal. Once you start grinding the plug welds you will get the hang of it. You can kind of see it. Maybe its the difference in the color of the metal as it heats up. Don't use those super thin (1/32) cut-off wheels man you will eat them up like crazy. Sometimes I use the thicker one (3/16) but 1/16 seems to work good or a combination of the two.
Man those reversible grinders are nice for keeping the sparks away from your body. Your probably gonna have to screw it together in some places. I always hate doing that. When you do, use one of your pre-drilled spot weld holes so you can get the screw hole welded good otherwise you just have this little 1/8 inch hole that is hard to get penetration on the other side. Those drill srews are handy for that. Plug weld should be about 1/4 to 5/16. 1/4 just seems too small for me. OK I've bored you all enough.
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I think new will look better SLO. You'd never be happy with it if you didn't. Graveyard Cars always uses AMD.
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Super sincere thanks BP for explaining it in terms I understood. I totally understand slashing and the ways of different coloring as grinder heats it up! This Forum and guys like you on here that are willing to share knowledge is really cool. I am going to order the AMD parts, and good call on leaving old ones in place till I have new in hand. Often times looking at something outside a machine can give you a lot of direction on how to get it out. I am a racer and just not a restorer kind of guy. I always pick function over form. I truly admire all the folks on here that restore and go with original but that just is not my way. Fred be ready for a road trip once I get the sheetmetal in here. And again BP thanks for the guidance it really makes a difference for me.
Glad to help. They also make seam buster tools but I mostly use a thick putty knife\ scraper that the handle broke off . I sharpened the side of it and hammer the other side through the ground or drilled weld. Usually have to wear a glove as its a pretty smart shock on the old hand.
Any time SOL just give me a heads up.
To much hand blocking for a Scamp but what the hell.
From a Body Mans perspective I say it still looks beautiful. I can tell just by looking at it that it's going to be straight and that you know what you are doing.
Actually opened the hood on the Barracuda today trying to get a better perspective on what SLO is up against on his Demon. Looking a little crusty under there.
Looks like the same inners as mine and plenty of room for being off a notch.
Gonna be nice to see the old girl on the road BP. she looks like she is in good shape.
Can't tell real good but is that a sun roof I see in the picture.
No sunroof. I was just laughing a little about the block heater cord going over the core support by the horns. I remember we put big old Cadillac horns on it when my friends dad owned it. We had them upside down and they would fill with water. It was rather humorous.
We sure had a good time in the old days. I bet the horn sound gurgled a lot. lol
My friends folks were super cool people. She kept us fed and even bought us kegs of beer when we weren't old enough to by it. He taught us alot about mechanic work. He always called us Honyockers. He had a Red 70 elcamino. We put an SS hood on it. I bought his 75 chevy truck too. It had a 454. The first thing he did was swap in a better cam and good exhaust. That truck hauled ***. It was my daily driver till I swapped paint with a gaurd rail. That drive train ended up in my 65 elcamino. Never did like that car much. Man I sold **** cheap.
I think we could talk about the good old days all night BP because was doing the same thing as a kid. And all the cars we had. The worst car I had that was a lot of fun was a 1959 bug eyed Sprite that had a small Buick V8 and ford 4 speed. fast little bugger and would smoke the 50s tires on the back but was broke down more than on the road. lol
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Morning guys. Time to get up and then fall asleep on the couch...how many times has that happened? Guilty
Morning Mark, I never set on the couch during the day but at night watching TV is my nap time. lol
Had an old friend from my teen age years call me up last night, was nice to talk with him after 40 years.
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Wow that's a long time but how nice. I have a good friend who lives in New Brunswick and a 15 hr drive from here. I hadn't seen him for 23 years and jumped in his son's tractor and went to see him. The son runs from N.B. a couple of times a week to Toronto. We talk on the phone all the time but was really good to see him. We had a blast and a lot of laughs about the old days. Wish he lived closer but have great memories of the crazy stuff he used to get up to. We never stopped laughing when he lived around here. Have a great day Fred. I'm off to the car show and will try and take some good pictures and post them on here.
Have fun Mark Will enjoy the the pictures when you get back.
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I am already out in the shop thrashing on the Demon, with the decision to postpone paint and replace inner fenders I am again enjoying working on it and not feeling the pressure of a deadline getting to paint. It is fun again. I was really stressing and making some poor build decisions in effort to save time. My hound however is on day two post surgery and is gorked out on some serious doggy meds. Wonder how they mix with bourbon? Hah!
Poor Hemi, but looks comfy.
Glad you decided to put the paint off for now lots less stress. Replacing the inners will be easy but I am concerned about the flange from the cowl to the inner fenders. Yours looks like after looking at the picture you sent that some was cut off. I'll get a picture of mine to give you an idea.
Awww poor guy !!!
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