DionR
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I haven't checked them out lately. Maybe I should have looked at current offerings before commenting.
Naw, your comments are fine. Just sharing my observations.
I haven't checked them out lately. Maybe I should have looked at current offerings before commenting.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I'm thinking about sucking it up and driving my Duster this evening to run an errand. But it's like 95 degrees and I will be doing it alone if I do because my wife would be really uncomfortable. Or we go together in her car and I leave the Duster in the garage once again. One of those times where my Challenger would have been nice to still own.
What you have done to the scamp?I'm just keeping them all. Drove the Scamp to work Tuesday. Drove my Jeep on Wednesday. Drove the Challenger today and I'm gonna drove my 1969 VW Beetle tomorrow! I love them all
Exactly, the new stuff just doesn't have the "soul" or character of the classics. I have owned and or driven each of the ones you mentioned, and yes they can be a blast to drive, get great fuel economy, handle and brake really well, but the feeling just isn't there.I've personally drove around in the newer stuff. R/T challenger, Scat Pak challenger, 2SS Camaro's, GT 'stang. Here's my opinion.
Pro's:
Con's
- They offer all the creature comforts
- Fast and powerful for "off the show room floor". Will mop the floor with yesterdays muscle cars off the show room floor.
- 28-30 mpg. That's right. 500 hp (net at that!) and still get ya the MPG's
- Handling and braking is outstanding
- Safety features should the unfortunate happen
- Just going to the Post Office, feels like any other mid size new car.
- Not nearly as fun to open the hood and "dream of the next step" .... like dual quads, etc
- Very expensive to upgrade heads, intakes, etc.
- And the nostalgic feel is gone. Completely. That character is missing
Con's
- Just going to the Post Office, feels like any other mid size new car.
- Not nearly as fun to open the hood and "dream of the next step" .... like dual quads, etc
- Very expensive to upgrade heads, intakes, etc.
- And the nostalgic feel is gone. Completely. That character is missing
What I meant was the rack-n-pinion steering, 4 wheel disc brake, strut suspension feels like ..... all that on a '08 Pontiac Grand Prix.Funny, I found it the opposite for a couple of these.
- Mine always felt special and I would happily jump in it to go to the Post Office. Always liked walking back to it while it idled by the curb; love the sound and the look. Didn't sound or look like any other mid sized new car to me.
- I like the visuals of my motor and never had problems with making plans. If anything it was one of my problems.
- No real argument on the cost of hopping one up, but I will say a 6.4 cam into a 5.7 really isn't any more expensive than one into an LA. And the nice thing about any of the Hemi's is that the heads already beat most of what is available for a SB so those really aren't necessary to upgrade. Same with the intake other than maybe stepping up to a 6.4 one on a 5.7. On the other hand, long tubes and aftermarket cams are much more expensive and everything comes with the expectation that a tune is needed which can set you back a pretty penny.
- I always loved the character of mine. Easy going and mellow until I asked for a response in anger. It was (in my mind) the best of both worlds.
Something I have to acknowledge is that I was probably somewhat imprinted on the newer Challengers. I was there in Vegas when they unveiled the prototype, and every time I saw them on the road I said I was going to own one. So I certainly have a predisposition towards seeing them in a favorable light. Not much different than some of the reasons we like Mopar instead of GM.
I owned both my Duster and my Challenger at the same time, and in my eyes, the Challenger just did everything better than my Duster. The only place the Duster was better was in that I could point to it and say I drug it out of a junk yard and put it back on the road and did most of the work myself. Certainly something to hang a hat on, but when comparing what a car is actually support to do the Duster just fell short in most every way. The Duster is getting better, but still a long ways to go.
Character and feel are such an individualistic thing. So hard to put a finger on.
It's got a 360 in it with W2 heads. 904/ 3500 stall convertor with a 3.55. Fun car.What you have done to the scamp?
I owned a ‘15 SXT, that’s a V6 with all the R/T upgraded parts. Gutless out of the hole, but otherwise an excellent road car that you’ll want nothing really. Yea, not as fast as a HEMI for sure, but there is no lack of get up and go once you are on the Hwy.A friend of mine has been trying to get me to buy a newer challenger. I know that they are more comfortable and run great, but I'm not good with technology stuff, he showed me all the things that his challenger has on it through the information center on the dash and it was mind boggling to me. Plus they are not cheap, I'm not ready for a big car payment at almost 63. I did think about it though.
What’s a car payment?But I don’t blame you with not wanting a car payment.
Not one bit.
You pay cash for all your new cars? I'm not going to pay what they are asking for the newer challenger's, and at 63 I'm not interested in getting into debt over a car and I have better things to do with my money.What’s a car payment?
Yes, just bought two outright last year at this time.You pay cash for all your new cars?
I got rid of mine right after I retired. Paid of the 1500 & the Durango R/T.What’s a car payment?
Must be nice to be wealthy.Yes, just bought two outright last year at this time.
I ordered this one.
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Not wealthy, I’m cheap I just save up.Must be nice to be wealthy.
It would take years to save up that kind of money. I'm going to guess and say that you probably have spent around 90k on 3 new carsNot wealthy, I’m cheap I just save up.
Two cars, totaling around 80k.It would take years to save up that kind of money. I'm going to guess and say that you probably have spent around 90k on 3 new cars
i just love that Demon. Right stance, color scheme, you knocked it out of the park!Well I will contribute to the rabbit hole. I too have a Modern Scat Pack Challenger. To say I love driving it is an understatement. I have driven it across the Country three times. One of those times I had so many tools in the car it listed! Seriously you could fit three dead bodies in the trunk. And I was by myself so the cab was loaded down as well. I was so impressed (and still am) I found a wrecked SRT with Tremec six speed and dumped in my 72 Demon. I am turning less than 1500 rpm’s at sixty mph. It is a hoot to drive. I will never go back. It was very hard for me to do the swap as I did it all myself but it was worth every aggravating step. No regrets!
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I came close to buying a crate 392 hemi and a Tremec 5 speed for my 69 charger. I just couldn’t do it with my bad back and my time crunch. I decided to put the money into the stock motor and Tremec 5 speed.Well I will contribute to the rabbit hole. I too have a Modern Scat Pack Challenger. To say I love driving it is an understatement. I have driven it across the Country three times. One of those times I had so many tools in the car it listed! Seriously you could fit three dead bodies in the trunk. And I was by myself so the cab was loaded down as well. I was so impressed (and still am) I found a wrecked SRT with Tremec six speed and dumped in my 72 Demon. I am turning less than 1500 rpm’s at sixty mph. It is a hoot to drive. I will never go back. It was very hard for me to do the swap as I did it all myself but it was worth every aggravating step. No regrets!
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I'm sure that took a few years to saveTwo cars, totaling around 80k.
Not really I don’t buy beer or cigarettes and drove a 15 year old car at the time.I'm sure that took a few years to save
That's awesomeNot really I don’t buy beer or cigarettes and drove a 15 year old car at the time.