Ol' Blue's magnum swap

Magnum Engine Swaps

  1. dartslantsix

    dartslantsix Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any pics of the driver's side header installed in the car? I know you used Sanderson headers, but which part number were these?
     
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    DD9, but they are for manual steering. I got them to work, but it took some heavy massaging on both the headers and the steering box.

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    Thank you for taking the time to post up. I have a '64 Valiant V8/4spd car. I want to put my mag motor in it. I want headers. I think those might be better with a smaller steering box.
     
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    Yes, they were designed with manual steering in mind. In that case I believe they would work with no massaging or other headaches.
     
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    You can use LA heads on a Mag.
     
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    Never said you couldn't, it just takes some Machining to do it on the later blocks which is what I have. 93, 94, and Midway through the 95 model year they were cast with the oil provisions that allow La heads to oil properly. Once they ran out of those blocks though, they didn't cast any more that way. Later blocks require Machining in the oil galley to send oil up the LA head to the rocker shaft.
     
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      Why would you want to?
       
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      If you're going aftermarket, there is much more support and a wider variety of awesome race heads. No such luck with aftermarket Magnum heads. You can find a hot Magnum head, but not much in the way of race powered air flow.
       
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        I'm down to the mundane parts now, and it doesn't help that I took a two month break on it since my dad passed away. Even if it seems silly, it just didn't feel right to be working on it without him. Still doesn't, but it needs done. Got the linkages hooked up last night, not a huge fan of the way I got my throttle pedal rigged up but it works. I'll post up some pictures of it later so everybody can flame me out for my boneheaded engineering skills LOL
         
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        Sorry about your dad. Lost mine a little over 2 years ago.

        Thanks for the swap info
         
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            Nice work! Sounds good.
             
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              I'm with you, have same, 64, v8, 4 spd. Later bell hsg. for 10.5" clutch, 5.2 Magnum, manual steering. Thinking dd9 may work with hyd. clutch.
               
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              • Blackhatguy

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                Just got the driveshaft back after work today, I had to shorten it for the long tail shaft transmission. Got it put in, and took it for a short drive, just a shake down run really. It still needs tuned up, and I have to do something about the speedometer cable that isn't hooked up to anything, just rattling and making a bunch of noise... But it runs!
                 
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                • RogerRamRod

                  RogerRamRod The Older I Get, The Faster I Was

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                  Thank you for this thread, glad you’re moving
                   
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                    On my way to the exhaust shop
                     
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                      So you have a power steering car and you made the headers work as well without cutting up you car ? Those look like shorties what were they out of ?
                       
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                      They are for my car, just one without power steering.
                       
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                      So which timing cover did you go with the pre 69 or post ? The pulleys line up with either set up as long as they are not mixed ?

                       
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                      I went with the pre 69 to look a little more correct, and yes the pulleys lined up great with only minor shimming on the crank pulley.

                       
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                      Glad you got it going. Like a whole new car I bet. What part of Texas are you in?
                       
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                      Near Lake Jackson, south of Houston
                       
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                      Cool. I know it well. Born and raised in Santa Fe. No burnout videos? :steering:
                       
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                      The ball and trunnion U-joint is worn out, bad vibration and getting worse. Also, it's still got the 7 1/4 open, so the burnout is going to have to wait until my new driveshaft and rear end comes in... But trust me it'll happen!
                       
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                      • Blackhatguy

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                        I got a conversion driveshaft made to replace the ball and trunion, trying to eliminate some pesky lingering vibration. The vibration is still there, but I think it has to do with my rear end. Anyway, I've been trying to take it easy on the car since I am afraid of blowing up the rear end before I have the other one built.

                        That being said, last Saturday I couldn't help myself. Had an Acura RSX pull up next to me leading up to a merge lane. When I slowed down he slowed down obviously wanting to play... so at 30 miles an hour I punched it and didn't stop spinning tires until my GPS speedometer said 70. I missed my turn, and scared the crap out of my daughter, but Lord that was fun!
                         
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