QuickTime T-56 Starter Issues

[erict]

I'm wrapping up a T56 magnum swap using the QuickTime bellhousing for an LA. Went to fire it up today after many months of work and 'crunch '. The starter is grinding the flywheel bad, it sounds like it's in a bind

Has anyone had starter clearance issues with this bell/combo? Ive read mixed messages about whether you can really even properly shim a mopar starter. There aren't many options when you search for shims. Brewers carries this but no thickness is listed and it's labeled as a seal. Any opinions or similar experience is appreciated. Thanks

Brewer's Performance - Mopar A833 4-Speed Transmission and Component Specialists

 

[ValiantOne]

Am I correct in assuming you cannot see the starter engagement with the quicktime bell? It is solid with no "ports" right?

That starter seal would move the starter back a bit but not away from the ring gear.

Do you have a spare starter you can throw in to help troubleshoot? I'd also look at the gear on the starter you tried and see if it will tell you what exactly is jamming up. The root of the gear, or the nose, etc.

Good luck!

 

[erict]

I'm wrapping up a T56 magnum swap using the QuickTime bellhousing for an LA. Went to fire it up today after many months of work and 'crunch '. The starter is grinding the flywheel bad, it sounds like it's in a bind

Has anyone had starter clearance issues with this bell/combo? Ive read mixed messages about whether you can really even properly shim a mopar starter. There aren't many options when you search for shims. Brewers carries this but no thickness is listed and it's labeled as a seal. Any opinions or similar experience is appreciated. Thanks

Brewer's Performance - Mopar A833 4-Speed Transmission and Component Specialists

Am I correct in assuming you cannot see the starter engagement with the quicktime bell? It is solid with no "ports" right?

That starter seal would move the starter back a bit but not away from the ring gear.

Do you have a spare starter you can throw in to help troubleshoot? I'd also look at the gear on the starter you tried and see if it will tell you what exactly is jamming up. The root of the gear, or the nose, etc.

Good luck!

 

[erict]

Am I correct in assuming you cannot see the starter engagement with the quicktime bell? It is solid with no "ports" right?

That starter seal would move the starter back a bit but not away from the ring gear.

Do you have a spare starter you can throw in to help troubleshoot? I'd also look at the gear on the starter you tried and see if it will tell you what exactly is jamming up. The root of the gear, or the nose, etc.

Good luck!

Thanks for the reply. I did try 2 different starters with the same result. You are right there is no inspection ports either side of the bell to see what's going on. The front corner of the starter gear was chipped on a couple teeth after I tried it.

Checking the depth to the flywheel with the starter out vs the depth of the gear on the starter it appears to have the 1/16" clearance needed. It makes me think the gears are meshing too tightly. I'm not really sure how to shim that or even check it too be sure

 

[mod5v]

You need to shim the starter away from the flywheel. Just put a washer between the starter and bell and try it. If the grind stops make a proper shim from some aluminum plate. or just leave the washers.

 

[erict]

You need to shim the starter away from the flywheel. Just put a washer between the starter and bell and try it. If the grind stops make a proper shim from some aluminum plate. or just leave the washers.

Thanks, I'm going to try the washers and report back.