OK - I was told here, by another member that he believes they are the same. One of the leaf spring vendors mentioned on this site thinks wagons used a 6 leaf set-up, but I kind of feel he meant full size wagons. I am kind of at a lost so maybe a should just bag the car! I can run the "too weak" springs I have now and set it up with leaf-over-spring bags. It would be nice to be able the pick up the rear for the jack or nasty Indiana pot holes! Anyone running bags on their early A?