Should I make this deal?
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harrisonm
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I hear you. I have completely restored about a dozen cars to include stripping paint to bare metal or fiberglass. I enjoy the Bodywork, rust repair, priming and block sanding, painting, and wet sanding and buffing. All of that is like enjoyable therapy to me. However, I have always greatly disliked stripping the paint!
That is a nice looking bike. I don't think I remember ever hearing about a Maico Bike.
Maicos were a German build and the King of MX thru the 70s and early 80s
Glenguy
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Update....it's a V45
jos51700
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Uh, what? Raising the rear increases load on the rear tire and plants the rear tire, increasing traction. Even when leaned over in a corner.
It's unsettling and made the Magna feel weird in a corner but it isn't dangerous. They just never had the chassis for cornering to begin with. Plenty of shaft drive bikes on the road can vouch for that.
I never saw this thread earlier but I'm praying to God you told the drywaller no. Both for the sake of your bike, and your car. Unless you like getting screwed on both ends. Some people are into that.
Glenguy
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No worries. I decided to try the bondo-ing myself. The reason is because my brother got called away for extra duty in another town to help a cousin build some horse barns. I've decided to try it myself. It's a major challenge to me, but who's to say that I won't succeed unless I bite the bullet and give it a try? On a further note, I have decided that if I can't get the car on the road and ready to show by next summer, I'll sell it. My second choice would be a Ford pickup from 1948 to 1952 with the flathead V8. I love those things!
Glenguy
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Sorry if I'm coming across as negative, but why does the rear sprocket appear to be grossly mis-alignged with the center of the wheel? On a further note, according to my research, Maico has a reputation as being one of the most dangerous motorbikes ever manufactured. That's not my opinion, just what I gathered from research.
4spdragtop
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Never heard about Magna "crashes" before. I abused the **** outta my V30 and it handled fine, until I met a "lefty" head on...
ir3333
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A long, long time ago i traded an oldsmobile for a chord of wood. It will
be a good decision if you are both happy!
be a good decision if you are both happy!
jos51700
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Now THAT is a great way to approach things!
Mate you cant tell its due to angle of the photo, maico motor bikes are not dangerous lol...... considered dangerous as they made big power and race orientated so yea if you cant ride they are dangerous
That maybe be true for straight line acceleration but while cornering it raises the center of gravity and unloads the rear tire when the shocks top out . How many GP bikes are running shaft drive ? Todays bikes utilize essentially ladder bars and more advanced drive systems to alleviate the original issues with shaft drive .
I sold Magnas new and almost everyone ended up on its side.
They were great bikes but the owners had to know what they were designed for.
Maico 490s make big power but it comes on very smooth . My KTM 495 however was a killer ! Wheel-stand at will !
V65s were the dangerous ones if ridden like a hooligan . Your V30 didn’t have near the HP .
Glenguy
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Forget what I said about the wheel thing....that must have been a brain fart, lol
The 1981 490 Maico was so fantastic that even to this day many of its features are used on dirt bikes, including 4 strokes.
The rising rate of the rear suspension matches almost exactly today what Maico was doing with 81 490. There were many years where different rising rates were tried but in the end, the rising rate is what Maico used.
The bike was in fact so good that Honda but several of them, stripped them down and copied them! They copied them so close and did it so fast they kept the kicker on the left side.
Do a search and IIRC you’ll find the 1982 CR480 Honda has a left side kicker.
I always rode European bikes with left side kickers. My buddy bought a brand new 480 and he never did master the left side kicker.
jos51700
Green Bearing thread connoisseur
GP bikes don't run shafts or belts (which are MUCH lighter than chains) for the same reason: GP bikes are constantly changing final gearing for track and conditions.
If what you said was true about Cg, then bikes would crash every time the fuel sloshed in the tank, or the rider moved around. The simple fact is that when a rider hangs off the side, Cg does too (often times upwards relative to the bike, as well as forward, too).
The crash rate of Magna owners has as much to do with many owners not being prepared for 105 horsepower in the early '80's as anything. The Kawi triples, first Gen Ninjas, Hayabusa, the Yamaha Vmax, the Turbo Hondas, even Harley's V-Rod all had high rates of crashes when first released. It happens with ANY model that drops and has huge power (or any other quirks) than bike models before it. You sold em, I was in the back fixing them!
When the V-rod came out we started putting a good number of swervies on the demo units and new sales and washing the rear tires, just to scrub the tires of that slick mold release. Many Harley riders couldn't handle a Vrod after the 65 horse turds they were used to! Our first month of Vrod sales had a 100% drop rate (8 bikes) and I never saw that anywhere else. Even Ninja 250's were not laying down like that, and we used to joke about kicking them over on the showroom floor, just to get it over with.
I owned an H2 750 and that was definitely not a cornering bike ..lol. Or a stopping bike . But it was a blast to ride. Always cognizant of it’s limitations while riding almost to the point of paranoia.
As for the Magnas I can distinctly remember the rear end rising on acceleration Much more than other bikes . Im not saying they were impossible to ride but the average person that bought this style of bike wasn’t always in tune to handling characteristics or riding techniques. The sportbikes were more forgiving in this situation and inexperienced riders got away with lack of skills. Although many of those went down as well .
As for the Magnas I can distinctly remember the rear end rising on acceleration Much more than other bikes . Im not saying they were impossible to ride but the average person that bought this style of bike wasn’t always in tune to handling characteristics or riding techniques. The sportbikes were more forgiving in this situation and inexperienced riders got away with lack of skills. Although many of those went down as well .
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