So im working on my super bee instead of my dart for a change... took out my caltrac mono springs because over the last 5 years they flattened out and sagged. they just don't seem to hold up to street use.. So order some new super stock springs from summit for a 3800 lb 69 coronet, the correct front extended hangers, new Hotchkiss rear shackles. well I go to install them tonight, and I started with the pass side spring, front hanger went in good, the axle houseing hole for the spring pin lines up ok, so I go to put in the new rear shackle and the bottom of the shakle looks about 4 inches forward of the upper bushing.I know I have the correct parts , I double checked my part numbers in the mopar performance catalog just to be sure summit didn't mess up. It looks to me like the springs short.... is this the norm for these springs? also because of the caltrac traction bars I had to use the lower hole on the front brackets,wich is going to make the car too high so I think I have to get lowering blocks...has any one run into this forward shackle problem and what can I do about it? thanks for your time mopar brothren ROY:banghead: