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Other than 1 black cottonwood all we have are Ponderosa Pines. And thanks to Mother Nature we get at least 15-20 new ones every year. Have decided we need some leafy stuff. Don't care about the mess, live on 5 acres out in the country, the wind will take care of it. Neighbor gave me 4 of these....

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Leroy said they are Red Maples. He has several Red Maples in his yard and said these were dug out of the ground by him....

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He thinks this is some sort of Ash tree. He sent a donation to The Arbor Day Foundation and got a bunch of plants, but he did not pay attention to the labels. Can anyone verify that it is indeed an Ash of some sorts?

Do either one of these tress have any known pest problems? Don't want to plant something that is going to be a problem child, so to speak.

Grew up with a gigantic Red Oak in my parents yard. Damn sturdy tree. Loved listening to the acorns falling. Could not think of the pest that we had a problem with, quick search turned up a Gypsy Moth. Once Ernie seen that she vetoed THAT idea.

Going to try to clone the Black Cottonwood that we have, more just to see if I can. Plans are to plant the Red Maples I have this fall and hope that with some water next year we get some healthy shoots for cloning. Would like to have a tree canopy covering the one driveway we use, line the fence with them and once we got our patio cover up plant some near the front of the house. And look into perhaps a White Oak or two....

Ernie mentioned she also wants a Lilac tree or 3. We are looking for a bit of color and some shade. Not much of a flower/ground cover fan. Between the dogs & the gophers, and the deer that show up seems like a waste anyway....
 
Im not familiar with what kind of tree that is but you mentioned it was an ash tree possibly
Just be careful of the Emerald ash borer
It is a tiny green beetle that kills healthy ash trees.
Any progress on the dart
 
Sorry can't be of much help. I do know if you burn it then it will most assuredly be ash.
 
Looks like something was already munching on the maple leaves.

Trees and the critters and diseases that attack them are regional. So, I would think the Arbor Day people would send stuff that is right for that area.

Keith
 

No doubt that first one is a Maple of some sort. I planted an Autumn Blaze Maple in the front yard several years ago and the leaves are identical. What color it is, is a mystery unless who you got it from is 100% sure. I do know this much. Silver Maples do not like warm climates like we have here. I planted a silver Maple at the house where I grew up in Macon and it was always a sickly little tree. Then I read that they like cooler climates. All the red varieties are more hearty.

Lastly, it may not change color well until it reaches some level of maturity. Mine is probably about 6" or so in diameter and it just now started coloring a little last year. They are FAST growers, too. Mine is less than ten years old and already over 30' tall. It was in a 15 pound pot when I planted it. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow when the sun is out.
 
trees- Maple trees can be a pain- roots in my yard run across the top ot the ground in all directions- a pain to mow- but are sturdy and grow fast- no prone to breakage in wind like some trees- OK for firewood- free is one of my favorite words....
 
Red Maple are awesome trees with their reddish leaf color in the fall
They are a hardwood and grow very slowly. when bigger you can tap it and get some good ole maple syrup in the spring
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I think the first is a silver maple. Could the second be a poplar?
Now, My wife's general rule of thumb is, if it's free (in the gardening tree world) you probably don't want it. Poplar is messy in the spring.
Next time You and Ernie head to town, take a leaf with you and hit a gardening center. Make sure you get the head or someone up there in the que to identify it for you, not a summer employee.

I think almost everywhere has a reforestation program of some sort where you can buy a number of types of trees for your neck of the woods without a lot of cash layout and in some cases they will plant them. If you have enough property you may consider a forest management contract. We have had good success with ours and we pay 25% of the tax bill.
 
hemidart67 said:
Im not familiar with what kind of tree that is but you mentioned it was an ash tree possibly
Just be careful of the Emerald ash borer
It is a tiny green beetle that kills healthy ash trees.
Any progress on the dart
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Very well may toss that lone tree in the burn pile when I get started on it this year. Had plans to move the Dart over and get the seats/shifter mounted in it so I could haul it over and get the carpet made and have Lonny do something about the dash pad...Of course the bike changed that. Ripped the oil sump cover plate open. What should have been a simple 4 day wait for a part has turned into a 5 week wait....over the winter planning on getting what I need so I can put the HemiDenny front end under it....

zkx14 said:
Looks like something was already munching on the maple leaves.

Trees and the critters and diseases that attack them are regional. So, I would think the Arbor Day people would send stuff that is right for that area.

Keith
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Leroy had these plants sitting next to a few that the bugs munched on. Just went and checked them, they look better today than they did when I took the pictures. I ran into Leroy & his wife this morning....Liz said that the lone tree came from a tour they went on at a park in Spokane. Like Leroy, she did not remember the name of it....

RustyRatRod said:
No doubt that first one is a Maple of some sort. I planted an Autumn Blaze Maple in the front yard several years ago and the leaves are identical. What color it is, is a mystery unless who you got it from is 100% sure. I do know this much. Silver Maples do not like warm climates like we have here. I planted a silver Maple at the house where I grew up in Macon and it was always a sickly little tree. Then I read that they like cooler climates. All the red varieties are more hearty.

Lastly, it may not change color well until it reaches some level of maturity. Mine is probably about 6" or so in diameter and it just now started coloring a little last year. They are FAST growers, too. Mine is less than ten years old and already over 30' tall. It was in a 15 pound pot when I planted it. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow when the sun is out.
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A picture would be great please. The tree in the first picture came was doug out from under the canopy of one of his Red Maples....at least that is what he calls them....but Leroy is getting up there in age so....

Gib Warnick said:
trees- Maple trees can be a pain- roots in my yard run across the top ot the ground in all directions- a pain to mow- but are sturdy and grow fast- no prone to breakage in wind like some trees- OK for firewood- free is one of my favorite words....
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If the roots run on top of the ground that is fine. NOt going to plant them anyplace where I am going to be mowing with anything but my DR Field mower...

plumcrazy704406 said:
I think the first is a silver maple. Could the second be a poplar?
Now, My wife's general rule of thumb is, if it's free (in the gardening tree world) you probably don't want it. Poplar is messy in the spring.
Next time You and Ernie head to town, take a leaf with you and hit a gardening center. Make sure you get the head or someone up there in the que to identify it for you, not a summer employee.

I think almost everywhere has a reforestation program of some sort where you can buy a number of types of trees for your neck of the woods without a lot of cash layout and in some cases they will plant them. If you have enough property you may consider a forest management contract. We have had good success with ours and we pay 25% of the tax bill.
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Going to being a few leaves with us next trip to town. Our lone leafy tree is a Black Cottonwood, or so I was told. Have read that it is in the Poplar family. And it is a mess in the spring. No raking for me though, the wind removes all of the litter.

Every spring a group advertises a tree/plant sale. Timing was off this year, just was not ready to plant trees. The minimum that can be purchased is 50 trees is I remember right. Going to keep an eye out to see if they have another sale for the fall planting....
 
Maples are one of the fastest growin trees there are. Look it up. Although they vary from species to species, that's why contractors choose them a lot for new construction. They grow like gangbusters.
 
Every spring a group advertises a tree/plant sale. Timing was off this year, just was not ready to plant trees. The minimum that can be purchased is 50 trees is I remember right. Going to keep an eye out to see if they have another sale for the fall planting....[/QUOTE]


Doug, contact your local forestry department via email, ask for whomever is assigned your area and try and get them out to your property to assess what you may want to do going forward to introduce hardwood into the lot and when their sponsored tree sale is.
again, depending on your acreage, yo may or may not have enough for a program, but they will be happy to talk to you. That's what they do, forestry and management.

We have found our MNR forestry people have been great to work with. They do listen to us and what we want to do and will recommend a sustainable plan to work with that works for us. Worked with them a couple of times with no issues. Having said that, some departments have power trippers so feel out the rep., before you jump in.

If you have any questions, shoot me a pm, if I can answer them I will.

good luck.
 
plumcrazy704406 said:
Every spring a group advertises a tree/plant sale. Timing was off this year, just was not ready to plant trees. The minimum that can be purchased is 50 trees is I remember right. Going to keep an eye out to see if they have another sale for the fall planting....
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Doug, contact your local forestry department via email, ask for whomever is assigned your area and try and get them out to your property to assess what you may want to do going forward to introduce hardwood into the lot and when their sponsored tree sale is.
again, depending on your acreage, yo may or may not have enough for a program, but they will be happy to talk to you. That's what they do, forestry and management.

We have found our MNR forestry people have been great to work with. They do listen to us and what we want to do and will recommend a sustainable plan to work with that works for us. Worked with them a couple of times with no issues. Having said that, some departments have power trippers so feel out the rep., before you jump in.

If you have any questions, shoot me a pm, if I can answer them I will.

good luck.[/QUOTE]

Took a guess and found the organization that sells native plants in the spring & fall.

http://sccd.org/treesale.html

Only trees they have listed for the fall sale are evergreens. Hoping to be able to buy some things in the spring, if they have the same plants available.
 
I'd plant them. I'll be more picky bout planting things next to the house. But,... I have about an acre and I've put in several trees down back without knowing what they would do. Most have done very well. If you don't like them you can yank them out or wait a bit longer and cut them for firewood.
 
red maple trees have crimson colored leafs during the growing season. they are slow growing and at maturity are about 40 - 50 foot tall.
 
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