What kinds of planes, neat and strange..

[Rice Nuker]

Couple from cold war and other stuff.

On the red plane, near the front of the engine cowling, when it started there were bursts of black smoke from 3 evenly spaced radially pointed flush located nozzles. I thought it may be a small jet turbine to start the jet engine.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUhIHbxuHE"]Cold War Jets 29th May 2011 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[67Dart273]

The jet in the first of the video is a British Nimrod, the military version of the Comet which gained such a bad reputation in it's early years--for literally coming apart at the seams because of pressurization problems

The one you speak of with the smoky startup is a form of the Canberra, which uses a form of Coffman starter cartridges, just like famously shown in the original version of "Flight of the Phoenix" The object of these was that if you were "somewhere" you could start the engines with little ground support, no need of a big auxiliary compressor/ generator/ etc on wheels

An explanation

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/380056-coffman-starter.html

and........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffman_engine_starter

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9fkmqPHTDE"]Canberra cartridge start Brunt 2009 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwYzAF9bZLI"]Flight of the Phoenix Starting the radial engine with Coffman cartridges - YouTube[/ame]


The real thing:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qrzgbTTcQ"]Wildcat First Shotgun Start - YouTube[/ame]

Go to about the 57 sec. mark.............

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os19XiWGDjs"]Grumman F3F-2 "Flying Barrel" - YouTube[/ame]

And let's not leave out the German? "Field Marshall" traktor which I believe is somewhat different. The thing they are lighting is sort of a fuse/ glow plug. These are not true diesels, rather "hot bulb" engines, more like a "glow plug" small model engine, and will burn about anything that is oil and will burn

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Sr8S9uQMc"]how to start a field marshall with a shotgun cartridge - YouTube[/ame]

 

[redlined]

Long vid, but interesting.



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJzKjtjZnY"]Greatest Mysteries of WWII: Hitler's Stealth Fighter 720P - YouTube[/ame]

 

[pauly v.100]

I think the early Migs were very cool planes, but what intrigues me the most were the Soviet ground effect vehicles Ekranoplan and Orlyonok.

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...ter%2Bvideo%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900-1&sigb=12ij9dhrh

 

[Rice Nuker]

That was a good vid. I watched last night.
I really like watching the evolution of rockets and planes.

Wish the hell I was part of it.

Long vid, but interesting.

Greatest Mysteries of WWII: Hitler's Stealth Fighter 720P - YouTube

 

[famous bob]

That was a good vid. I watched last night.
I really like watching the evolution of rockets and planes.

Wish the hell I was part of it.

the old start cartridges on the b-52`s were canned black powder .
just sayin-----bob

 

[ocdart]

The last image looks like a preliminary Soviet model of their later Sukhoi T-4 copy of our USAF XB-70 "Valkyrie" supersonic bomber design.

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Two were built and test flown. One crashed in 1966 during a multi-plane formation photo shoot. The remaining aircraft is currently in the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH (absolutely a "must see" museum if you have any interest in aircraft). The XB-70 reached a Mach 3.08 speed during testing several weeks prior to the crash.
Although still very modern in appearance, remember these aircraft were originally designed during the 1950's. The maiden flight was September 21, 1964. Almost 50 years ago!

 

[Rice Nuker]

Ever see the movie FireFox with Clint Eastwood?


[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYh9_QmNwRA"]FIREFOX - Movie Trailer hd - YouTube[/ame]

The xb70 is a neat plane! I watched a documentary on youtube about it a while back. Sad really, the number of awesome planes and other technology which barely made it to the testing phase and were canceled due to ICBMs.

 

[1970Duster]

Here you go the ultimate utility. From fire fighting to search and rescue to full blown military duty. I'd own one if I were stupid rich! Land that puppy right in the middle of Lake Tahoe and start fishin.

 

[Rice Nuker]

That would be fantasitc to hop from lake to lake all over the north west, up into canada and alaska. Or something. I reckon if you werent hauling water, you could haul more fuel.

Here you go the ultimate utility. From fire fighting to search and rescue to full blown military duty. I'd own one if I were stupid rich! Land that puppy right in the middle of Lake Tahoe and start fishin.