Where did ORIGINAL/REAL Rock n' Roll originate from?

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Where did real original "Rock N' Roll" start or originate from? I love the oldies, blues and early rock, curious to see what other think...please post your artists or links :glasses7:
 
Here is an early one...more early rock than blues..... :glasses7:

[ame]http://youtu.be/MJsod7Lgn8E[/ame]
 
I think real original rock n' roll started with the blues...here are 2 examples of 2 great versions...........obviously later rockers went to their roots :glasses7:

[ame]http://youtu.be/sYrK464nIeY[/ame]

[ame]http://youtu.be/R044sleOW6I[/ame]
 
I think Buddy Holly had a big role in the "start" of rock n' roll :glasses7:

[ame]http://youtu.be/a8pxBJErDuM[/ame]
 
Beach Boys? Many classics from them...but the start?

[ame]http://youtu.be/zs2lL625Yy8[/ame]
 
Elvis Presley was the first to take the blues and make it mainstream. By doing that Rock and Roll was born. Carl Perkins,Johnny Cash and Jerry Lee Lewis were also a big part of the birth of Rock and Roll. Alan Freed a DJ from Cleveland coined the phrase rock and roll. He played a lot of records that most DJ's wouldn't play. There used to be concerts back then called the Moondog Coronation Ball that a lot of those early acts played at and got exposed to the mainstream. Alan Freed hosted those concerts.
 
Bill Haley and the Comets sure helped bring Rock n Roll to the table.Sorry can,t bring up a video on my I-phone,but just think 1 2 3o,clock 4 o,clock rock.:-D
 
"Rock and Roll, started long before Elvis, Bill Haley, and all of those. Black musicians originally started in back in the late 40's early 50's long before white performers brought it to the "main stream".

It started with the 1940's style R&B. in 1951 (long before any of the groups mentioned above) Allen Freed, a black DJ, coined the term "Rock and Roll" to describe the music coming from black progressive (for the time) R&B groups and combos.

Prior to that, the phrase Rock and roll was a black street slang for sex, though some people claim that it was a reference to the motion of a ship at sea, and other "stories".
A good example of the original use of the term was in 1922 by black blues singer Trixie Smith when she recorded "My Man Rocks Me (With One Steady Roll)"

In 1950 a black group called The Dominos released a song called "60 minite Man. The Some of the lyrics of the song (for you younger guys who still believe your era invented sexual innuendo)..
There'll be 15 minutes of kissin',
And then you holler "Oh please don't stop!"
There'll be 15 minutes of teasin'
And 15 minutes of pleasin'
And 15 minutes of blowin' my top!
...I rock 'em, roll 'em all night long I'm a sixty-minute man".

There were other black R&R songs from the late 40's and early 50's that were later covered by many of the early white rock and rollers...


Elvis was about 5 years behind these black groups and artist, so was Carl Perkins, Bill Haley, Buddy Holly, and the rest of the white contingency, of early rockers. The one thing all of these guys had in common was the love for they black originators of what is called "Rock and Roll".
Another black group, Big Joe Turner back in 1954 released a song called "Shake Rattle and Roll". Elvis and other white artists recorded it some time later.
The words to the song are very sexually oriented:

Shake Rattle and Roll lyrics - Big Joe Turner's version
"Get outta that bed, wash your face and hands
Get outta that bed, wash your face and hands
Well, you get in that kitchen, make some noise with the pots 'n pans

Way you wear those dresses, the sun comes shinin' through
Way you wear those dresses, the sun comes shinin' through
I can't believe my eyes, all that mess belongs to you

I believe to the soul you're the devil and now I know
I believe to the soul you're the devil and now I know
Well, the more I work, the faster my money goes

I said shake, rattle and roll, shake, rattle and roll
Shake, rattle and roll, shake, rattle and roll
Well, you won't do right to save your doggone soul

Yeah, blow Joe!

I'm like a one-eyed cat peepin' in a seafood store
I'm like a one-eyed cat peepin' in a seafood store
Well I can look at you till you ain't no child no more

Ah, shake, rattle and roll, shake, rattle and roll
Shake, rattle and roll, shake, rattle and roll
Well, you won't do right to save your doggone soul

I get over the hill and way down underneath
I get over the hill and way down underneath
You make me roll my eyes, even make me grit my teeth

I said shake, rattle and roll, shake, rattle and roll
Shake, rattle and roll, shake, rattle and roll
Well, you won't do nothin' to save your doggone soul


Most, not all of the white artists cleaned up the lyrics in their covers of this song.


No, Rock and Roll was not invented, or even named, by white artists, or DJ. We copied it from it's black originators of the 40's and 50's, and some going back even into the 1920's.

White artists, main streamed, to white audiences who, in large part had very limited exposure to black groups, and black music of the time until the second half of the 1950's.



No Elvis, no Buddy Holly, certainly no Beach Boys, lol, and no Beatles.

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Alan Freed Was not black. He was a White D/J from Cleveland, or NYC, I can't remember which, it's too long ago now.

Frankie is mostly right on the origins R&R.

barracudadave67
 
Rock and Roll evolved from the delta blues of the early 20th century.
 
Keith I believe you're right about rock and roll beginnings were with the blues.

Eric Clapton did Robert Johnson's Crossroad Blues as a rock song when he was with Cream.

Here's the 2 of them.

[ame]http://youtu.be/Yd60nI4sa9A[/ame]

[ame]http://youtu.be/Y9FkEjOBJuw[/ame]
 
barracudadave67 said:
Alan Freed Was not black. He was a White D/J from Cleveland, or NYC, I can't remember which, it's too long ago now.
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You're correct. Poor wording on my part. I didn't mean to indicate that he was a black man, but that he was a DJ who played a lot of (some say he specialized in) black music at a time when many radio stations would not air music performed by black artists. I apologize for the error.

I met Freed while I was at United Artists Studios, in NYC. That was the mid 60's at that time, 63 or 64 maybe. The band I was with at the time had contracts to play at Palasades Park in NJ, with Hal Jackson, for 16 weeks, during that time we acted as the house band and opening act for groups like Muddy Waters, The Temptations. the 4 Tops, and others.
We were recording the radio spot announcements at the studio and Freed walked in. He and the the recording engineer knew each others. He just stopped in to say hello while we were working.
 
Elvis may not have invented rock, but he is responsible for it gaining so much popularity.
 
After WW2, people had a weight,lifted off their shoulders. They needed an outlet,"rock and roll" ,was the outcome. It's about blues and rhythm and blues and jazz,combined with electric guitars amplifier's. My god,the Stones,Beatles,and Led Zeppelin, copied the blues. Modern day stuff: Aero Smith,White snake, come to mind... Rhythm & Blues,are an American gift.....
 
Great thread and tunes. Cool story Frankie! Buddy Holly is one of my oldie favorites.
Here is a cool blues song/story from Long John Baldry

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj_lZ4hkJd8"]Long John Baldry - "Don't Try To Lay No Boogie Woogie On The King Of Rock & Roll" - YouTube[/ame]
 
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