Pitman arm is hitting tortion bar! Help?

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I dont think bending it will fix my problem though. There is something more seriously wrong with it. The tortion bars are all the way tightened up and the front of the car is sitting wayyy to high..
 
73moparman said:
I dont think bending it will fix my problem though. There is something more seriously wrong with it. The tortion bars are all the way tightened up and the front of the car is sitting wayyy to high..
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Torsion bars will remain in the same position just like the steering gear box no matter how they are adjusted.
 
yup thats the same pitman arm i bought. Im not really sure what kind of motor mounts they are..its got a 340 in it.
 
73moparman said:
yup thats the same pitman arm i bought. Im not really sure what kind of motor mounts they are..its got a 340 in it.
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I don't know what to tell you then. If you can't get a picture of a motor mount I can't eliminate the 1967 K-Frame as being the issue. The 1967 K-Frame will fit your car but the pitman arm is different and cause all kinds of problems.
 
ahh shoot its getting dark out now..i wish i could get a picture. So you think the pitman arm is wrong or would i have to change the whole k member?
 
Pictures could eliminate some things and maybe show something else that we can't see with 2 pictures. The motor mount picture will tell us what you don't have so it will narrow down the scope of what to look for.
 
73moparman said:
I have a 1973 Plymouth Duster with a 340, 727 transmission. It has new pitmar arm, new idler arm, v8 tortion bars. The problem i am having is the pitman arm is rubbing on the tortion bar, in turn i cant turn down the tortion bars to lower the car to make it handle better. Any ideas what could be wrong with it or how to fix it?
Thanks, Brandon
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Looks like it's still got the 6cyl. centerlink in it. There's one on Moparts for
$45.00 shipped
 
mcode said:
Looks like it's still got the 6cyl. centerlink in it. There's one on Moparts for
$45.00 shipped
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I wasn't aware that they were different but if they are it certainly might solve the problem. It still lists the same part number for the pitman arm for a /6 or a V8. Torsion bars would still be in the same place. If the other centerlink has a drop where the tie rod bolts on then it would clear the problem area.

73moparman, Post a thread asking for anyone the might have either of them laying around to post pictures of both of them so you can compare.
 
It is not the center link unless it is bent, But it doesn't look to be. 72 on back are all the same 73 up are all the same motors do not play a part. There could only be three causes. Steering box mount moved or broke. Lower control arm bushing completely shot which causes the torsion bar to be miss placed up or down. Center link bent down in the center from a motor setting on it during a motor change which would cause the tie rod to hit but not the pitman arm. If the pittman arm is hitting it would be one of the other two mentioned. The pittman arm hitting would have nothing to do with the center link. The steering box and the torsion bar are stationary. If the pitman arm is hitting the torsion bar one of them is out of place. Make sure the steering box is tight have someone watch it while your stereing it on the ground.
 
Oldmanmopar said:
It is not the center link unless it is bent, But it doesn't look to be. 72 on back are all the same 73 up are all the same motors do not play a part. There could only be three causes. Steering box mount moved or broke. Lower control arm bushing completely shot which causes the torsion bar to be miss placed up or down. Center link bent down in the center from a motor setting on it during a motor change which would cause the tie rod to hit but not the pitman arm. If the pittman arm is hitting it would be one of the other two mentioned. The pittman arm hitting would have nothing to do with the center link. The steering box and the torsion bar are stationary. If the pitman arm is hitting the torsion bar one of them is out of place. Make sure the steering box is tight have someone watch it while your stereing it on the ground.
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OP said the tie rod is hitting not the pitman arm. 67 uses a different K-Frame from all other years and things don't line up on it correctly. I am not sure what would bolt up to a 67. Idler arm is unique on a 67 K-Frame. Control arm bushings being bad could be the issue. If OP would post a bunch of pictures we might be able to see something that isn't correct or is worn.
 
I think maybe the power steering box was changed to 72 and older , making the pitman arm wrong , or left motor mount is junk . start it up torque car up with the brake se how far the engine moves upward , and i am wondering if these mounts are homemade or are they schmaucher mouts.
 
kt340sport said:
I think maybe the power steering box was changed to 72 and older , making the pitman arm wrong , or left motor mount is junk . start it up torque car up with the brake se how far the engine moves upward , and i am wondering if these mounts are homemade or are they schmaucher mouts.
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Motor mount wouldn't make any difference on the tie rod hitting the torsion bar. The exhaust being hit by the tie rod end could come from many things including motor mount or the exhaust wrong for the car. I am thinking he may be better off taking the car to another MN. area member (if there is one close enough to him) for a second set of eyes that can see everything we can't.
 
Okay sorry guys i just got off work. So what do you want pictures of..i mean i can go take pics right now if you want while its light out. I think both the tie rod end and pitman arm is hitting but mostly the tie rod end...
 
It could be the wrong K member, but Its more than likely the wrong Arm: If its Its from a 67 the pitman arm comes up from the bottom
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if its a 74 or anything past a 68 (?) it comes in from the top
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IF you got the wrong K and pitman arm, you also have the wrong center link as the taper is opposite. Any believers?
 
pishta said:
It could be the wrong K member, but Its more than likely the wrong Arm: If its Its from a 67 the pitman arm comes up from the bottom
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if its a 74 or anything past a 68 (?) it comes in from the top
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IF you got the wrong K and pitman arm, you also have the wrong center link as the taper is opposite. Any believers?
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I ordered a brand new pitman arm from moog for a 1973 plymouth duster and it was exactly the same pitman arm i have on the car now..
 
So you got the wrong K....might want to try the older one and get an older centerlink, Cant flip it as its a dropped style and then the other taper is off. But youll know once you get it on, centerlinks are cheap. So is this the 3rd pitman arm?
 
I had the same problem on my '73 Dart, tierod hitting/scraping the left T-bar.
I decided to shim the steering box about 1/8" - 1/4" with a selfmade wedge under the upper right bolt. Don't forget to loosen the steeringcolumn shaftbolts first, and to retighten them again after you've shimmed the steering box.
 
It is a six cylinder k member in the car i think..so you think i should just try ordering a new centerlink for my car and try that first?
 
73moparman said:
It is a six cylinder k member in the car i think..so you think i should just try ordering a new centerlink for my car and try that first?
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Look at the drop compared to each of them. The bottom entry is lower. You may have the correct centerlink but the PO just put the wrong pitman on it. look at the original taper for the pitman. From the pic, it looks like its correct though or the pitman would not seat enough for the nut.
 
I live in Princeton MN. Is that close to you? I have a V8 duster and demon. We can get together and compare if you'd like to,
 
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