Project- Bills Buggy

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HemiPar said:
Fender looks great. I had to fix my drivers side bout the same place. Did you ever find that clip for mirror? If not PM me your address. I have one and will send it your way.
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Thanks for the compliment, I cant wait to see the fender in paint.. and thats awesome about the clip... I will PM you now..
 
The day has finally arrived... Time for color.. lol.. Well in the jams at least..After weeks upon weeks of seemingly endless sanding, and work, we finally got a good break in the weather, and it was time to jam the buggy.. Of course the weekend wasnt without incident.. The first thing was digging out the paint.. I bought the paint 4 years ago for the Dart.. A quart of single stage for all the jams and 2 quarts of base coat.. for the bodys base/clear paint job.. No clue why I never noticed til, now, but the single stage clearly said, 'Chrysler B5 blue, bright blue poly'.... however the 2 quarts of base, just said, 'bright blue metallic'... hmmm.. so we decided even though the car isnt getting painted for another 2 weeks, we would open them both and just be sure all was well... it wasnt! The base was totally the wrong shade of blue..

I was crushed, its not like I have a lot of extra cash lying around to buy something again that I have already paid for... but.. I no longer could find the original reciept and just didnt feel the store where I got the paint would honor it all these years later... so with the wife's blessing I had another 2 quarts of base done up, (and yes it matches now LOL) ...

So we got my baby jammed.. It was soooo wonderful and uplifting to see color finally going on the car. Makes all the work worth it.. So, enjoy the car ****.. Oh.. there was another issue... we final primed the newly finished passenger side fender.. it looked great, til something caught my eye while Bruce was jamming the fenders.. you can see where one of the patches is on the top of the fender.. we're not sure yet if this is something that can be made better, or if its something im just going to have to live with.. if it is, I am ok with that.. sometimes thats just the way it goes.. but we will try to come up with a game plan for it this week... All I know is I am a pretty happy guy today...
 

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Oh another thing.. I am sure someone will notice this in the painted jams pictures.. but the underside of the trunk lid has some pretty big dents in it.. Like as if something had dropped onto the trunk lid.. What we came to find out is that the dents were in the structure from the factory, apparently before it was skinned.. we took the skin down to bare metal and there were no dents or any signs of dent repair.. Quality control seems to have missed this when the car was built.. I figure its been that way since day 1, I wanted to leave it.. I am sure it will make for conversation from time to time LOL ..
 

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has anyone else ever uncovered damage that apparently happened when the car was built? lol
 
So im curious... The pic I posted above where the repair to the fender is somewhat visible... How bad does it actually look? As people have told me before, I clearly know its there.. I helped patch it.. I know what was cut out, what was added, etc etc.. So obviously I will be able to pick things out from a quarter mile away. Bruce told me once its painted, along with the rest of the car, that may not stand out quite like it does with primer and blue overspray.. lol... Just dont want to get into a situation where I start obsessing about it LOL ... all opinions and thoughts welcome...
 
I would suggest repair it now...you will be glad you did later..

but you are right about being too critical if its for driving..... enjoy
 
HemiDenny said:
I would suggest repair it now...you will be glad you did later..

but you are right about being too critical if its for driving..... enjoy
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Thanks Denny... Yeah, I was hoping to be past the major dust making phase of the project, but maybe Im not LOL .... We are going to be game planning tonight, so I will know more then.. I am still really curious to see how much its going to stand out all in paint... And the car is going to be for driving, so I will try to keep being overly critical to a minimum LOL (if thats possible) ... thanks again for the input...

Anyone else have any thoughts?
 
I'd fix it now too, definitely. I don't know how obvious it is in real life, but if it's this clear from that distance in a pic, I think it would stand out badly once painted. And that will be a highly visible area. Just my opinion.

At this point, I'd take it into a different area/room to do the work on it, to avoid adding more new dust into your paint area.

Curious, why single stage for jams and 2 stage for the rest? I don't know that I've ever heard of that before. I'd just use 2 stage for all of it. What's the reasoning there?
 
72Dodge said:
I'd fix it now too, definitely. I don't know how obvious it is in real life, but if it's this clear from that distance in a pic, I think it would stand out badly once painted. And that will be a highly visible area. Just my opinion.

At this point, I'd take it into a different area/room to do the work on it, to avoid adding more new dust into your paint area.

Curious, why single stage for jams and 2 stage for the rest? I don't know that I've ever heard of that before. I'd just use 2 stage for all of it. What's the reasoning there?
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We are gonna try and fix the area in question on the fender.. Make it look as good as we can lol. As for single stage jams versus the whole job in base/clear? I have no real logical answer.. Lol. The guys said that was the way to go. They did their cars that way, and they came out nice, so I trust them on this.
 
I had done some repair to my car before. And with all the work before the paint it could be seen. Looked like the filler was soaking up the primer. I just checked to make sure the area was flat, and it was. Then painted and you can not tell where any work was done. If I had to do it again, just make sure there are no high or low spots, then paint. just my .02
 
T-minus 10 days and counting til the buggy turns all blue... I cant wait..
 
Been a year and a half or so in the making, but the Dart is finally wearing her new blue paint... What a night... We didnt finish up until 2 in the morning.. Sealer, base, clear lol... ugh... Everything went well until the clear went down.. For a couple of reasons (gun issues and we were losing heat faster than we had anticipated.. it went down to 40 outside, it was everything we could do to keep some heat and not blow crap all through the paint) .. The clear orange pealed pretty bad... Oh well... nothing a long night of scuffing and buffing wont fix... That didnt kill my buzz though, lol.. I am so happy the buggy is finally blue... Had to share some pics with you all.. They're not the greatest pics, it was late, and I was tired.. I will post more after the scuff and buff.. Happy Easter all...
 

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Sweet! Beautiful sight! I'm sure it's a relief for the bodywork to be coming to a close. Any issues with the slight metallic in there (that's B5, right?) Or was it a non-issue for whoever sprayed it... no additional considerations? Only reason I ask is because I see lots of comments on the body forums about spraying metallics, but they're usually talking a lot larger/more metallic than a B5 is. I will have to spray GA4, which has about the same amount of flake in it.
 
72Dodge said:
Sweet! Beautiful sight! I'm sure it's a relief for the bodywork to be coming to a close. Any issues with the slight metallic in there (that's B5, right?) Or was it a non-issue for whoever sprayed it... no additional considerations? Only reason I ask is because I see lots of comments on the body forums about spraying metallics, but they're usually talking a lot larger/more metallic than a B5 is. I will have to spray GA4, which has about the same amount of flake in it.
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Thanks for the compliments... Yep that's B5, we didn't seem to have any issues with the metallic, that I'm aware of... Our issues were all in the clear. Lol
 
I envy you Bill!

way to go on getting the dart in paint!

I hope to be doing the same very soon.

In the pictures the clear dont look THAT bad. but like you mentioned. a little cuttin 'n buffin and she will look right as rain.

way to go buddy, happy for you on getting to this big stepping stone in your project!
 
DusterDude72 said:
I envy you Bill!

way to go on getting the dart in paint!

I hope to be doing the same very soon.

In the pictures the clear dont look THAT bad. but like you mentioned. a little cuttin 'n buffin and she will look right as rain.

way to go buddy, happy for you on getting to this big stepping stone in your project!
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Thanks Jerrod... I was hoping you'd stop in and comment. It was so awesome to get to paint. Just seeing the color go on.. Of course the downside was, its amazing how you go over and over you car, sanding, blocking, priming, sanding, blocking, priming etc... and once the color goes on you still find stuff you missed.. LOL .. its insane.. but what it is, is what it is now.. I am still very happy with the Buggy.. This was my first attempt at doing a car... I went from knowing nothing about working on cars, to getting where I am now.. with a great amount of help from my friends, and the knowledge I have gained here...

The only things that bummed me out were the clear.. and later after the clear was on, I noticed that the drivers side of the trunk lid appears to have zebra striped a little.. I was all over that car in between color and clear, and saw nothing.. again, its amazing what pops out as you add stuff.. Now my friends did tell me that the flouresent lights wreak havoc as well.. they make things look strange and off... I will wait and see how it looks in the sun... Truth be told, the only fix for that is sanding down the trunk lid and re-spraying it... it all comes down to what I can live with... I dont much feel like redoing the trunk lid.. I am pretty sure once the stripe is on and the cars back together it probably wont catch the eye as much as I might believe it will... On top of that, I know in my heart I did the best I could, I dont want to go backwards... I built this car to have fun with and in.. I think it looks good, I want badly to drive my car again LMAO ..

The orange peel on the other hand, thats gonna need addressed.. I realized that the pics I posted the clear actually looks pretty good.. but if you look at them again, theres things you start to notice.. for instance the drivers side of the car you can see clear reflections,... the passenger side however looks dull still.. the passenger side orange peeled worse.. that was the side the gun was messing up, and thats also the side the heat was escaping from the fastest.. I believe the cold messed that side up.. we actually had to keep the torpedo heater running for the 3rd coat of clear... by that time, the orange peel was not gonna be fixed by trying to flow the clear more... See also the pic below of a close up of the trunk lid and top of the passenger side quarter.. You can clearly see how much orange peel there is... lol.. So... I guess Im not quite done sanding yet.. So, now Monday and Tuesday nights, I will be wet sanding the clear.. Hopefully Wednesday or Thursday it will get buffed, and I will sweat bullets the whole time I dont burn through anywhere while doing all this LOL .. ah the joys of doing a car..

I thank you again for the compliments, and I will get pics up once the scuff and buff is complete... I cant wait for you to get to this stage dude.. I am looking very forward to it.. Its an awesome feeling...
 

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Got to get that thing back on the road ASAP, Irwin car shows started
 
yeah that fender came out nice!

yup, the close up pic shows the orange peel a bit more. but it looks like you got a good thick layer of clear to work with to smooth it all out ...so you should be dandy. And yes be carefull not to burn through!....that would be a bummer.

I had a mustang painted a couple years ago and the guy that buffed it went to deep on a body line and ended up scorching the paint a bit. otherwise the rest of the car came out flawless. and had a heck of a shine to it.

I know what your going to....ive been at my project duster for about 3 years now and im itching to get it done and over with already so I can just enjoy driving it and cruising with my family. I have enjoyed working on the project....don't get me wrong, but its been and up and down roller coaster due to funds,weather,space,labor intensive fix's,lack of help, hard to find parts, and the list goes on.

but I am in the "home stretch now. Just need to finish knocking out the body work so I can get some primer on it. then its just a matter of waiting for some nice consistent weather to lay color and clear.

but its awesome you will have it pretty much ready to go in time to get a summers worth of cruising out of it and some good family fun. thumbs up to you on all the A+ work and be sure to thank your buddys for any help ....id love to have some friends that would be willing to help me on my project but they are all to scared to get dirty or are the type that dont do nothing for anyone unless they get something out of it ( also the type that forget about everything you have done for them lol) thats been a big hold up on my duster is pretty much tackeling it all by myself from top to bottom.

love the color on the dart though and cant wait to see it buffed out!
 
Looks good Bill. Looks like it turned out better than some of the Easter eggs I colored. We did a '67 Mustang last year that had orange peel like that. A little wet sanding and buffing and all came out good. And, yes, flourescent lights make it look worse than it will in the sunlight. How much assembly do you have to make it road/show worthy?
 
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