What kind of oil filter do you guys use?

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Baldwin or Wix here. No Fram for me. Cut one open, even their upper end models, and youll see why.....
 
Wix are still made in the USA for most domestic applications. There are cartidge filters and other non canister filters out there that arent made in the US because there simply not made here by anyone. I can also tell you since Advance aquired Carquest there filters are not made by wix. They are made by Puralator and are not the same quality. Both Napa and O'reilly's house brand are made by Wix. Napa Gold is supposed to be the same as a standard wix and both the Microguard ( O'reilly ) and the Napa silver are the second tier filter both with anti drainback valves but less pleating. Good filters imo over fram, puralator, stp and other bargin brands.
 
Mopar L-128. I still use the old canister oil cleaner! It has a huge standoff pipe in there. Oil stays in there for weeks.
Purolater, Fram-Mopar...all the same....cardboard seat for the anti-drainback valve. Notice the Fram design has the cardboard end plate, cheap-azz!
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check out this site, great stuff. http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/reference.html
 
Wix are great, i use them on my wifes minivan.:)
 
Mark2205 said:
Wix are great, i use them on my wifes minivan.:)
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....and your wife's minivan has bigger requirements from an oil filter than any race car.

300 dollar oil filter.


A fool and his money.......
 
It really doesn't matter. Is this for your hobby car? What kind of mileage are you going to run before changing the oil? Do you want to run multiple oil changes on 1 filter? Most likely you will change the oil because of time not mileage and you will change to filter with the oil. If you do that any filter will perform the same. These premium filters are designed to go multiple oil changes, like 15,000 miles plus, even 30,000! Take the supposedly "crap" Fram (which it's always some 4th hand account of somebody's 2nd cousin that had one cause their motor to fail), the basic holds 8 grams of dirt, the Tough Guard holds 10-12 grams, and the synthetic Ulta holds 26 grams. All of them like air filters actually filter better the dirtier they get to the point the will bypass (which an air filter can't do so it just becomes a big restriction). I would bet any plugged up basic Fram came from a backwoods, dirt road, car with 30,000 miles on the oil, the air filter, and the oil filter.

Here is at least a study with some testing rather then just cutting them open and taking pictures
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilterstudy.html
 
I hate changing oil. In my cars they get it maybe twice a year. My truck had it changed in '13 I think... I run Wix with 15-40 Fleet oil. Everything gets that package...lol. Used to be Carquest but like was said - Advance bought them and they just changed the store over so I'll drive further to NAPA for my stuff (Sorry Ted!)
 
Hersbird said:
Here is at least a study with some testing rather then just cutting them open and taking pictures
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilterstudy.html
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Yes, it is some testing.

And the author goes on to admit that it's extremely subjective and is no way comparable to standardized SAE testing.

But, then again, all the arguments in the world on this subject are extremely subjective. Oil filter brands, just like the brand of oil itself, for the most part is subjective. Everyone hates on one brand or the other, and everyone loves on one brand or the other, without being able to truly give out a response that isn't based on emotion. It's exactly what the manufacturers want and the gimmicks they employ to market the product.

I've had good luck with this brand. Someone else has had good luck with this brand. Someone has had bad luck with the brand I prefer while I've had bad luck with the brand someone else prefers. See the word "luck" being used in a lot of these discussions.

When a customer asks me which filter brand I prefer when making a recommendation out of the ones we sell, I "prefer" Purolator Classic. Why? Because it's an economical filter and I've had "good luck" with them.
 
ramenth said:
Yes, it is some testing.

And the author goes on to admit that it's extremely subjective and is no way comparable to standardized SAE testing.

But, then again, all the arguments in the world on this subject are extremely subjective. Oil filter brands, just like the brand of oil itself, for the most part is subjective. Everyone hates on one brand or the other, and everyone loves on one brand or the other, without being able to truly give out a response that isn't based on emotion. It's exactly what the manufacturers want and the gimmicks they employ to market the product.

I've had good luck with this brand. Someone else has had good luck with this brand. Someone has had bad luck with the brand I prefer while I've had bad luck with the brand someone else prefers. See the word "luck" being used in a lot of these discussions.

When a customer asks me which filter brand I prefer when making a recommendation out of the ones we sell, I "prefer" Purolator Classic. Why? Because it's an economical filter and I've had "good luck" with them.
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So do you have a comparison of the SAE tests? You would win the internet peace prize if you did. All we know is every filter out there passes the SAE standard test and the meaningful test is optional and run biased by the manufacturers themselves not independently. Oh and Fram does great with their Ultra in that test as well.
 
I know I posted this pic early on.... Look at the concentration of folds in the FL1A filter in the above comparison. That equates to a significant amount of filter area. And yes... made in USA.

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Hersbird said:
So do you have a comparison of the SAE tests? You would win the internet peace prize if you did. All we know is every filter out there passes the SAE stapeace and the meaningful test is optional and run biased by the manufacturers themselves not independently. Oh and Fram does great with their Ultra in that test as well.
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Looking for a fight or just being an ***? I don't need to post such a thing as the author of the test you posted said just that. If you have a problem with that statement, then take it up with the author of the study you posted and not me. Don't just look at the page you posted, but read his own comments on the forum in which he posted it.

He's the one who said his own testing is subjective. If you're using it as scientific proof, then that's your problem, since the author of the study says it isn't.

The issue, seems to me, is that you're defending Fram against the naysayers. Again, it's subjective. You like Fram. Other guys don't. Don't like that, take it up with them, as I haven't said one word or the other about Fram filters. You'll also notice I haven't said what I personally use, just what I recommend as a good filter for the value.
 
mguner said:
I know I posted this pic early on.... Look at the concentration of folds in the FL1A filter in the above comparison. That equates to a significant amount of filter area. And yes... made in USA.

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Those are Purloator Pure One PL30001's in a slightly different looking canister.

I've been using alternatively the wix or the Purolator Pure One PL14670.

Used Purolators on pretty much everything for years without a single issue. The oil on my 2004 Colorado basically looks brand new after 4k miles with these, and the engine still has "new" levels of oil pressure and burns zero. The basic ones are good filters considering their price of ~$3.50-4.50 most places
 
ramenth said:
Looking for a fight or just being an ***? I don't need to post such a thing as the author of the test you posted said just that. If you have a problem with that statement, then take it up with the author of the study you posted and not me. Don't just look at the page you posted, but read his own comments on the forum in which he posted it.

He's the one who said his own testing is subjective. If you're using it as scientific proof, then that's your problem, since the author of the study says it isn't.

The issue, seems to me, is that you're defending Fram against the naysayers. Again, it's subjective. You like Fram. Other guys don't. Don't like that, take it up with them, as I haven't said one word or the other about Fram filters. You'll also notice I haven't said what I personally use, just what I recommend as a good filter for the value.
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No I said you would win the peace prize because this same discussion comes up on every automotive forum on a regular basis. Why because all filters pass the SAE test which show that all filters work better then they need to which was my original point. The minimopar comparison only cuts them up and looks at them, the comparison I put up at least runs oil thorough them and compares what comes out on a test paper which is more scientific then the other comparison. I don't "like" Fram or any other particular brand, I don't care, I buy what seems like a good bang for the buck, any name brand middle of the road filter that is on sale. Sometimes Fram, sometimes, Wx, sometimes Purolator, sometimes who knows. I change my oil between 3000-5000 and replace the filter then so it doesn't matter.
 
Hersbird said:
No I said you would win the peace prize because this same discussion comes up on every automotive forum on a regular basis. Why because all filters pass the SAE test which show that all filters work better then they need to which was my original point. The minimopar comparison only cuts them up and looks at them, the comparison I put up at least runs oil thorough them and compares what comes out on a test paper which is more scientific then the other comparison. I don't "like" Fram or any other particular brand, I don't care, I buy what seems like a good bang for the buck, any name brand middle of the road filter that is on sale. Sometimes Fram, sometimes, Wx, sometimes Purolator, sometimes who knows. I change my oil between 3000-5000 and replace the filter then so it doesn't matter.
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Well put and my apologies if I took it the wrong way.
 
Back in Time said:
Lot of people here smarter than me of whom I respect their opinion a lot but I have been using Fram for 40 years on my race cars and all without 1 oil related failure. Your experiences may vary.
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2ND That i sold them for 20 years and still buy them today, hard to find where i live .Walmart has them again and Canadian tire has the common only .
 
I love how they try to make the NAPA Gold look better than every single filter there. ^^

Click on the Motorcraft comparison. Then read the results. The Motorcraft has more media. Not only is the media taller, but it is also longer, yet in the photographs, they bunch the Motorcraft media together closer so that it appears shorter, when it is actually 7.5" longer.

Just like I always say. Never trust the opinion of an article if the source has something to sell.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I love how they try to make the NAPA Gold look better than every single filter there. ^^

Click on the Motorcraft comparison. Then read the results. The Motorcraft has more media. Not only is the media taller, but it is also longer, yet in the photographs, they bunch the Motorcraft media together closer so that it appears shorter, when it is actually 7.5" longer.

Just like I always say. Never trust the opinion of an article if the source has something to sell.
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Don't forget the 'extra glue' comments.
 
Older post, so I am adding to it.
Update, i have been using the Walmart Supertech ST8 oil filters for several back to back oil changes due to internal engine work. So I decided to cut the latest one open. I will let you all interpite the photos but I will state that the filter base is very heavy several ounces and feel cast. The check valve is rubber/nitrile ?

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