Check out THIS 'ol lady, and I admit, I'm tempted
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pishta
I know I'm right....
Hole smoke, that a cream puff! FLAT HEAD SIX.....OMG. Flip it for 15K in So. Cal.
WTruo
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That would be a sweet cruiser.
67Dart273
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You mean pos vs neg? Neither did I and there has been some TWELVE volt vehicles (heavy trucks) that were positive ground. I don't know why folks didn't convert them. When I worked for the Motorola shop around 93-2000 my job was not primarily mobile 2-way, but I recall a couple of heavy truck installs where you had to have a special 12v-12v inverter for some equipment. Most older commercial 2-way radios, incidently can run either pos or neg ground
Most older car electrical "does not care" about neg vs positive
All starters older don't care, except newer PM "mini" starters
None of the old wiper motors or heater motors care
The generators could be polarized either way, but the regulator either had to be ground specific or rated for either. I was told it was the regulator contact metallurgy
Many older (tube) radios did not care, some did. (capacitor polarity)
Most older clocks could be reversed.
j par
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Most of that old stuff is a 6 volt positive ground. I've ran into it quite a number of times...
pishta
I know I'm right....
My friends dad had a very early DATSUN that was 12V positive ground. Like early 64...I heard it was even more rare in positive ground, like 1 of 12? It was a basket case whatever it was.
that's a nice car! That would be fun to cruise about 50 mph on a lonesome single highway - a great way to go fetch a burger and fries
Appears to be a great price! We have some old diesel gens here at the plant that are +ve ground.
I could see why you would be tempted Del!
I could see why you would be tempted Del!
diymirage
HP@idle > hondaHP@redline
I think that's what I mean
All I saw was a big red wire going from the battery to the head, and it didn't look right to me
I wanna say I've heard of positive ground circuits, but I can't say I've ever laid eyes on one
67Dart273
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6V vehicles were a hodgepodge of grounding. I don't recall, anymore, "who did what." At one time I think there was some theory about electrolysis
According to this, Packard stayed with POS ground after switching to 12V
Positive Ground Cars
From the article:
"Positive ground vehicles were once fairly common. In the mid 1920's, nearly half of the cars produced had positive ground, including Rolls Royce. The Ford Motor Company used negative ground polarity on the Model-T, then went to positive ground starting with the Model A, and then went back to negative ground in 1956.
Packard, Nash, Hudson, Pierce, and Studebaker were positive-ground until the mid-fifties. All British vehicles imported to the U.S. after World-War-II were positive ground, and many stayed that way until the early seventies.
Positive ground in automobiles was mostly abandoned with the introduction of 12-volt electrical systems in the fifties. 1955 was pretty much the last use of 6-volt electrics in American-made cars. Most cars switched from 6 volt positive ground to 12 volt negative ground together. An exception to this was the 1955 Packard, switching from 6v to 12v but not switching to negative ground."
According to this, Packard stayed with POS ground after switching to 12V
Positive Ground Cars
From the article:
"Positive ground vehicles were once fairly common. In the mid 1920's, nearly half of the cars produced had positive ground, including Rolls Royce. The Ford Motor Company used negative ground polarity on the Model-T, then went to positive ground starting with the Model A, and then went back to negative ground in 1956.
Packard, Nash, Hudson, Pierce, and Studebaker were positive-ground until the mid-fifties. All British vehicles imported to the U.S. after World-War-II were positive ground, and many stayed that way until the early seventies.
Positive ground in automobiles was mostly abandoned with the introduction of 12-volt electrical systems in the fifties. 1955 was pretty much the last use of 6-volt electrics in American-made cars. Most cars switched from 6 volt positive ground to 12 volt negative ground together. An exception to this was the 1955 Packard, switching from 6v to 12v but not switching to negative ground."
That's a red flag. I bet somehow, it's a scam. I would proceed carefully. Cool car though.
That's a petty cool little car.
What's a red flag? That you never heard of a positive ground? I suppose you never heard of 8 volt batteries either.
No, the whole car purchase @ 5K is the red flag to me. It seems way to nice for that kind of money.
I've sold plenty of 8V golf cart batteries, and seen some positive ground systems. I owned a Triumph Herald for a short time with positive ground.
TexasDart
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My grandpa had this exact car. Too cool.
dibbons
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Our 50's Ford tractor was 6 volt, positive ground. While I was away at school, someone replaced the battery and installed the cables backward. It still ran that way (negative grounded).
33IMP
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I think its probably cheap because its a bottom line car (savoy) four door, with a NOPAR flathead with a two speed auto, the very definition of slow.
But i LIKE savoys, and i have three flathead mopars. I WANT it!
(And my 33 has a positive ground 8v battery in it.)
I like it too. It's very cool.
Dartsun
Mopar Dude
Cool car great price. I like the interior in it.
vntned
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Mopars were all 6v positive ground up until either '57 or '58.
There is no issue with the functionality of a 6v + ground system. The main reason I've always converted them was due to the original "cloth" insulated wiring had deteriorated to the point of exposed and corroded wires.
There is no issue with the functionality of a 6v + ground system. The main reason I've always converted them was due to the original "cloth" insulated wiring had deteriorated to the point of exposed and corroded wires.
Nice little car! Has it been in a fender bender? The inner fender appears to have been crinkled at some point, and is that a patch?
69_340_GTS
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"Paint bubbles". That means rust, probably covered up by bondo. Buyer beware!
My 51 Fargo was 6 volt pos ground. Is 12v neg now. Ammeter just needed wires swapped. Gas gauge didnt care, i used a 70’s 1/2 ton tank and sender. Then i grabbed the cluster limiter and wired it in. So far so good. 200 or so feet of wiring done, a fuse panel and a couple fuse links. All seems to be working at this point.
That car is nice! If it’s legit, looks like a fun driver. I’d leave it and cruise it.
That car is nice! If it’s legit, looks like a fun driver. I’d leave it and cruise it.
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