$2000 to do your own brakes! F YOU Hyundai!!!

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The industry really wants all of us to buy a new car every three to five years.

I also have a problem with calling cars built in the US but funneling the profits overseas as "American" made.
 
I haven't watched the video yet, so this is coming from a point of ignorance.

Can you put the car on jackstands, turn on the engine, put the car in neutral, and do the brake job that way? Maybe have your kid hold the brakes while you remove the lugnuts? Yes, i know to at least break them loose on the ground.
That is an Interesting idea. We will know if we can get our hands on one of these Hyundais.
 
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We did mom’s Subaru a couple years back! Dealer quoted $2k.
 
Somewhat related, albeit a little off-topic....

I work for a Commercial HVAC Contractor in/near Mpls, and we have a customer with a 5 year old rooftop unit that doesn't heat. Now, in order to work on this unit a Tech is supposed to go through thousands of dollars worth of training to get a "certificate".

(And I used to be one of the guys that gave/led this training, but I've moved-on.)

Back to our customer:
* No heat
* Bad control board (which I could replace, but....)
* Can't reprogram the new board without a computer
* Next available spot for a "certified" Tech to do this: December 19!

So I told them just now (this is current/on-going): "You have got be kidding me! You're telling me that I'm supposed to tell my customer, who has equipment on their roof that you sold, that you can't get his heat running for a month?"

I can't retire from this **** fast enough.
 
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Somewhat related, albeit a little off-topic....

I work for a Commercial HVAC Contractor in/near Mpls, and we have a customer with a 5 year old rooftop unit that doesn't heat. Now, in order to work on this unit a Tech is supposed to go through thousands of dollars worth of training to get a "certificate".

(And I used to be the one of the guys that did this training, but I've moved-on.)

Back to our customer:
* No heat
* Bad control board (which I could repalce, but....)
* Can't reprogram the new baord without a computer
* Next available spot for a "certified" Tech to do this: December 19!

So I told them just now (this is current/on-going): "You have got be kidding me! You're telling me that I'm supposed to tell my customer, who has equipment on their roof that you sold, that you can't get his heat running for a month?"

I can't retire from this **** fast enough.
Well if it's as cold there as it is here in upstate NY, the broken heat will cause other things to break, like frozen pipes, spoiled food, damaged things, etc... Not a good situation to be in...
 
I've never had my hands on this junk, but this video shows exactly what could be done. It's just a simple DC motor circuit here, so if the owner of that Hyundai Moronic... Iconic... whatever it is only understood simple electronics they would have saved a boat load of money. Electric parking brakes are still ******* stupid though.

 
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Hyundai and Kia are the same company most don't know what K I A actually stands for...it's "Korean international automotive".
My dad was in the US Navy during the Korean war.... It was before my time so I don't know the issue was back then but they pizzed us off enough to go to war with them... Plenty of reason right there to not want one in my driveway/ even if only for a few minutes
 
Hyundai and Kia are the same company most don't know what K I A actually stands for...it's "Korean international automotive".
My dad was in the US Navy during the Korean war.... It was before my time so I don't know the issue was back then but they pizzed us off enough to go to war with them... Plenty of reason right there to not want one in my driveway/ even if only for a few minutes

Same reason I'd NEVER own a "jap product" :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Hyundai and Kia are the same company most don't know what K I A actually stands for...it's "Korean international automotive".
My dad was in the US Navy during the Korean war.... It was before my time so I don't know the issue was back then but they pizzed us off enough to go to war with them... Plenty of reason right there to not want one in my driveway/ even if only for a few minutes

Um... That was North Korea, you do know there is a North and South that are very different countries, right?
 
Same reason I'd NEVER own a "jap product" :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'm originally from Pennsylvania along with my mother's family, grandfather was from Maine. They were both once at war with the South and now I live in Georgia. I guess that makes me a traitor.
 
MY sister just took her 2022 Bronco Sport in for its 30K service. They did "that" and a front brake job and the bill was in excess of $900. After a few days, she started getting a rattle in the front when gently applying the brakes. She took it in and they said the calipers were torn up and that it wasn't safe to drive. She asked why they didn't notice it when they did the brakes. ...and I quote "When we replace the pads, we don't see the calipers". My take on it is, the "mechanic" left the caliper bolts loose and they probably ruined the caliper bolts and threads. She was also informed that if she takes her car anywhere but a Ford dealer, it will void the warranty. That's against the law. The Magnusun Moss Warranty Act forbids that. I know, because my Uncle helped write it as Assistant Director and later Executive Director of the FTC. I told all of this to the service manager and to my surprise he sounded genuinely shocked and promised to get to the bottom if it. Also, he said "all he saw" of the 30K service was front and rear wiper replacement and cabin and engine air filters. All that and a front brake "job" was over $900. ...and dealerships wonder why people don't trust them. I'm thinking surely there must be something more to the 30K service. I'm sure hoping so.
 
MY sister just took her 2022 Bronco Sport in for its 30K service. They did "that" and a front brake job and the bill was in excess of $900. After a few days, she started getting a rattle in the front when gently applying the brakes. She took it in and they said the calipers were torn up and that it wasn't safe to drive. She asked why they didn't notice it when they did the brakes. ...and I quote "When we replace the pads, we don't see the calipers". My take on it is, the "mechanic" left the caliper bolts loose and they probably ruined the caliper bolts and threads. She was also informed that if she takes her car anywhere but a Ford dealer, it will void the warranty. That's against the law. The Magnusun Moss Warranty Act forbids that. I know, because my Uncle helped write it as Assistant Director and later Executive Director of the FTC. I told all of this to the service manager and to my surprise he sounded genuinely shocked and promised to get to the bottom if it. Also, he said "all he saw" of the 30K service was front and rear wiper replacement and cabin and engine air filters. All that and a front brake "job" was over $900. ...and dealerships wonder why people don't trust them. I'm thinking surely there must be something more to the 30K service. I'm sure hoping so.
Not to pile on, but…..

Took my wife’s ‘08 Lexus RX350 into the dealership to have both front wheel bearings replaced, as I ran out of time to do them myself (pressed bearings). New bearings installed no problem, and the dealership did a 4 wheel “alignment”.

Except the camber is way off on the RF wheel, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN PRINT OUT. I called them about this, and they claim that they can’t set camber on these vehicles unless they use offset bolts. My response was along the lines of: “So what? If that’s what it requires, that should be part of the alignment!”

Nope, not according to those a-holes. They expect me to bring the vehicle back so that they can do an ADDITIONAL 4 wheel alignment, AT MY EXPENSE!

Phuqe ‘em. Phuqe ‘em all.
 
I bet if you find a Hyundai forum most likely someone already has a work around.

My inlaws, all of them, have Kias. They will only consider another Kia when it comes time to replace. Trade old Kia in and drive out with new Kia. Even had one buy a high mile Kia used. They are dead hooked on Kia all of them. Will not even think of another brand. They love love love love those Kias. Sit around thanksgiving and christmas with a crowd of Kia lovers. We love our Kias they are so great how come you don't buy one?????
 

If someone gave me a Kia for free it would be sitting in my buddy's driveway that lives along a road that's better traveled than mine with a "for sale" sign in the window, within a 1/2 hour after they dropped it off here.
I occasionally do side work and I refuse to take on a Hyundai a Kia a Toyota a Honduh, Or a Nissan. Any year any model, needing anything.
Id LOVE to see a cash for clunkers equivalent but the rules would be that those brands (any year any model any condition) would be the only ones eligible, and in order to participate you had to buy a GM a Ford or a Mopar to replace it.
 
When I worked as a mechanic, most of the Hyundai and Kia cars were **** boxes that felt like **** boxes, but there was a very short period of time when they had some good cars. Everyone was like "Wow, they stepped up their game!". The executives in-charge must have realized their mistake, because having nice things is probably not allowed in their mind and quickly changed things to make the cars crappy again.
 
Hyundai, what the **** were you thinking? I don’t care how cheap they are I’d never own one…

I once said that...I drive an Accent now, because the Detroit 3 haven't had a decent compact in decades. Still runs perfectly with 208,000 miles. (Even the original clutch!)

Yup
Last I checked were still in the USA. NOT Japan or Korea. Those cars should not even be allowed on our roads. I'm beyond sick and tired of seeing more kids and Hyundai's on the road than dodges Chevy's and Ford's. Wouldn't have one even if for free---- and that "free" included ALL maintenance, insurance and fuel. I don't even want one in my driveway long enough for say a pizza delivery

I don't want an SUV or a pickup. There are no decent domestic compacts and haven't been in years.

That's what happens when you buy foreign crap wouldn't be caught dead driving any of them...

My mother's Elantra was built in Alabama. Domestic content was about the same as my Challenger.

I just read an article this morning about an Escape in the Chicago area with almost 600k miles on it, lived a life of a taxi, Uber, and Lyft apparently.

Nothing unusual-I saw lots of Escape hybrid taxis in Boston. Coworker had almost 300K on his Escape before someone hit it.

What ever you do don’t by a vehicle with the variable transmission they’re all junk! New Kia’s are worse than the older ones as far as reliability goes transmission, engine and electronics.

The Mitsubishi Mirage CVT is actually quite reliable as long as it is serviced properly. (Fluid AND FILTER every 35K.) By "reliable" I mean that I have seen several over 300K.

So I think the takeaway from all these gripes is that newer cars are bad. So why not everyone just buy older trustworthy, repairable cars?? Everyone's jumping over each other to buy the newer car, and then they sit there and complain about it. The only people that these new cars are good for are people that know zero about cars (most of the population of the U.S.). So when the mechanic says it needs $2000 brakes, then the car owner gladly pays it, no questions asked. We, mechanically-inclined people are the minority.
Last winter I had a 2000 full frame Chevy Tracker. It was the best vehicle we've ever owned. I used to carry a tow rope in the truck because we were always pulling stuck tourists out of the snow in their new cars. We sold it and got the Jeep Compass because the wife wanted something better looking. Now that we have a problem-ridden newer Compass, I wish we never sold the Tracker.

Because everything older here has dissolved. (Heck, my 2009 Hyundai is getting rusty.) My next vehicle will probably be a 2010-2015 Transit Connect, bought from the south and thoroughly oil undercoated.

If someone gave me a Kia for free it would be sitting in my buddy's driveway that lives along a road that's better traveled than mine with a "for sale" sign in the window, within a 1/2 hour after they dropped it off here.
I occasionally do side work and I refuse to take on a Hyundai a Kia a Toyota a Honduh, Or a Nissan. Any year any model, needing anything.
Id LOVE to see a cash for clunkers equivalent but the rules would be that those brands (any year any model any condition) would be the only ones eligible, and in order to participate you had to buy a GM a Ford or a Mopar to replace it.

Sure. Except...none of them actually build CARS anymore. It's all trucks and SUVs, with eye-watering prices. 3 years ago, I'd have preferred to buy something American...but that just wasn't an option, because there simply wasn't anything out there. "Entry level" for Ford is a $30,000 half-truck. For GM, it's a $21,000 small FWD SUV with a turbocharged 3-cylinder engine that I'm absolutely not confident in. For Chrysler, it's the $31,000(!) Compass.
 
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