$2000 to do your own brakes! F YOU Hyundai!!!

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It seems he eventually got the brakes retracted with a Harbor Freight scan tool.

I have a 2013 Kia Soul (anyone want to argue I should have bought a non-SRT Caliber instead?), but its handbrake is cable operated as God intended. Electronic handbrakes are definitely an answer to a question nobody asked. Brake bleeding has been a pain though - apparently the only method that works is a pressure bleeder.
 
Bleeding any kind of anti-lock brakes is usually a PITA.

The Renegade will occasionally code a "service parking brake" light on the dash.

...which disables the cruise control (?)

So far, turning it off and back on (with the actual key) resolves it.

It's only done it half a dozen times in 11 years and it's a PITA if it happens at 70 MPH.

Sure glad it doesn't engage them when it happens.

..oh, and you should have bought one of these :):poke::poke:
 
Yep, should be a law !! I seen a couple different posts about Ford truck tail lights going out in 2017 model I believe, 1.700 to get it fixed!! My God.. yep, should be a law against this simple maintenance stuff.
 
volaredon said:
Ford's have had the electric parking brake on f150s since about 2018. I never thought I would see the day I would need a scanner for a basic brake job. I ha ve thousands into my snap on scanner and that's the entry level solus. I can't afford the higher models, I can barely afford this one. I just had to pay $600 for a damn update, usually that's $1200, but the snap off guy has a "sale" like once a year. He plugs the scanner in for less than 10 minutes and poof $600 gone.
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So you're saying that a car owner can't read the codes on their own 2018 or newer Ford? I was hoping to buy a newer Ford sometime, but think it may be better to buy an older truck instead.
 
Ant said:
They wonder why there is an auto technician shortage. On top of **** pay, lack of good jobs and evolving book times that makes working flat rate unsustainable for the modern repair tech, this is more BS the already tired and hard working mechanics should not endure.

Thank you for sharing that.
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I wear a sad face while I mention those techs that report,"it needs brake pads" when it doesn't.
Maybe the computer threw a code based on milage covered. At xxK miles it surely needs brake linings.
No visual inspection occured.
 
4spdragtop said:
Why? That's a serious question, I have the Ram and Cuda. I hadn't thought of buying it, and its been babied.
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I just helped a friend do the flexplate in an Escape. There is nothing remotely built to last on that **** box. Even the coolant lines leak if you look at them wrong. Flexplate separate and crack.
 
Well a buyer showed up and made the decision easy lol.
"Foreign" cars?? Lmao where the **** are replacement parts for the "big" 3 made lol.
500,000 on Kia and 360,000 on Hyundai lmao.
And a Spectra and Elantra are entry level, pretty good ROI there muddafudda!
 
There are no Canada car makers. Pointless white-noise.....
Fear not, we could spend a couple weekends and make it the 51st state, for ya. Great RVing and shooting ranges.
 
Ant said:
WARNING! Strong language and cussing.

I knew the electronic parking brake would ******* cause issues, and no one listened. There is also plenty of history that they have, just ask the tow truck drivers. Now I'm learning that the auto manufacturers have taken it a step further with this vile scheme. Those greedy fucktards at Hyundai have decided that you should not be able to disengage the electronic parking while doing a brake job unless you pay for a 2,000 dollar adapter and be connected to the internet to use whatever scan tool you have the app on.


I know about some of the other cars that require you to have an internet connection just to get access to the information on the vehicle's computers. I find this kind of stuff ******* stupid, which is why I want none of this **** in my cars. Now we need to worry about doing simple maintenance, like brake pads and rotor replacement on these overpriced **** boxes. If I'm late to the party, I apologize, but this is still the shitty way things are going.

Now the question. Does anyone here have one of these newer Hyundai cars? I would like to find out if this electronic parking brake system can be disengaged without software. Can we safely defeat this anti-consumer setup on a brake caliper?
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I haven't watched the video yet, so this is coming from a point of ignorance.

Can you put the car on jackstands, turn on the engine, put the car in neutral, and do the brake job that way? Maybe have your kid hold the brakes while you remove the lugnuts? Yes, i know to at least break them loose on the ground.
 
There certainly ARE Canadian car mfg's. GM, Ford, Honda.
Aaaannnnd I didn't say car mfg's, I SAID PARTS. Caps is for emphasis seeing how your reading and comprehension are subpar.
What white noise are you referring to?
51st state?? Maybe worry about your 50 states before even considering that foolish fuckin move.(Ya may want to read some history books lol)
Is your gov even "working" YET?
And no im not crowing about our government or politics, but you brought it up lol.
MMissile said:
There are no Canada car makers. Pointless white-noise.....
Fear not, we could spend a couple weekends and make it the 51st state, for ya. Great RVing and shooting ranges.
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1973Barracuda said:
I just helped a friend do the flexplate in an Escape. There is nothing remotely built to last on that **** box. Even the coolant lines leak if you look at them wrong. Flexplate separate and crack.
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My wife has a Jeep Compass with 70k miles on it. It's falling apart at an alarming rate. And the "four wheel drive" isn't even real four wheel drive. We've never owned a Jeep before, so maybe Jeeps are normally junk.
 
1973Barracuda said:
I just helped a friend do the flexplate in an Escape. There is nothing remotely built to last on that **** box. Even the coolant lines leak if you look at them wrong. Flexplate separate and crack.
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I just read an article this morning about an Escape in the Chicago area with almost 600k miles on it, lived a life of a taxi, Uber, and Lyft apparently.
 
4spdragtop said:
Wifes 2015 Elantra has been a great car but 360kms on the body(warranty engine at 250,000), it won't last forever. Lori's mom who lived with us passed away and she had a 2016 Ford Escape with 59,000 kms. Lori's the executor, so I told her to "buy" it. She doesn't want to, and is looking at another Kia possibly. Im hoping she goes for "new-ish" 2018-2022. Her Kia was still running great at 500,000 kms.
Thanks for posting, these will be questions I ask IF she decides to sell/trade the Escape.
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What ever you do don’t by a vehicle with the variable transmission they’re all junk! New Kia’s are worse than the older ones as far as reliability goes transmission, engine and electronics.
 
Thanks for heads up. Most new anything is junk compared to the older stuff. That's why I tried talking the wife into keeping it. Her car her choice.
Oldiron440 said:
What ever you do don’t by a vehicle with the variable transmission they’re all junk! New Kia’s are worse than the older ones as far as reliability goes transmission, engine and electronics.
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stroked340 said:
That's what happens when you buy foreign crap wouldn't be caught dead driving any of them...
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After working for an American manufacturer that somebody already mentioned (makes green tractors) I won't be buying an American (or now Korean) vehicle anytime soon, if ever. Look at the state of society and business practices in these 2 countries, it's more than a coincidence to me that giant corporations control everything and money matters more than life itself.
 
I know of a situation where a Chevy pickup owner had his six L go bad in warranty and GM refused to replace or repair it. They said because of owner neglect when he had been having the dealer service the truck every 3500 miles, he only had 23k on the truck. This was back in 2014 or so and it’s gotten only worse.
 
RogerRamRod said:
Along the same lines, manufacturers killing off manual transmissions saying auto is SO much better, to lead the public into being comfortable having everything done for them.
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Gotta disagree on one small point; the public isn't being lead into having everything done for them. The manufacturers are giving the braindead, lazy, half stoned half disconnected public what they want. Thinking? Nah. Working? No thank you. Drooling on yourself while the foundation of your world washes away mindlessly beneath your feet?

Yes, please.
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There are no Canada car makers. Pointless white-noise.....
Fear not, we could spend a couple weekends and make it the 51st state, for ya. Great RVing and shooting ranges.
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Shooting ranges? In Canada? If that's what you meant, you haven't been following the gun news in the Frozen North lately.
 
tom999w said:
So you're saying that a car owner can't read the codes on their own 2018 or newer Ford? I was hoping to buy a newer Ford sometime, but think it may be better to buy an older truck instead.
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No not at all on the ford.... You can. Just that you have to put the brakes in a service mode when you work on the back brakes. But anything Dodge 2017+, yeah. Owner can't do **** on those
but yes definitely to the older truck idea ,1000%>>>> exactly why I have an 83 d250 in paint jail right now
 
tom999w said:
My wife has a Jeep Compass with 70k miles on it. It's falling apart at an alarming rate. And the "four wheel drive" isn't even real four wheel drive. We've never owned a Jeep before, so maybe Jeeps are normally junk.
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I've got 125,500 on my '15 Renegade.

I'll reiterate- throwing a warning light for "license light out" but it isn't.
That's the worst thing wrong with it.
Routine maintenance.
Tires
Brakes
Timing belt
Torque strut
All that I did by myself.
I did specifically buy the manual transmission, to avoid modern automatic problem$
34 MPG mixed driving.
Better power to weight ratio than a 318 Duster!
...and it pulls a trailer.
 
Oldiron440 said:
What ever you do don’t by a vehicle with the variable transmission they’re all junk! New Kia’s are worse than the older ones as far as reliability goes transmission, engine and electron
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YY1 said:
I've got 125,500 on my '15 Renegade.

I did specifically buy the manual transmission, to avoid modern automatic problem$
34 MPG mixed driving.
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The wifes Compass has the VVT. I read yesterday that the VVT trans got better on Jeeps after Fiat bought Chrysler in 2014....
 
So I think the takeaway from all these gripes is that newer cars are bad. So why not everyone just buy older trustworthy, repairable cars?? Everyone's jumping over each other to buy the newer car, and then they sit there and complain about it. The only people that these new cars are good for are people that know zero about cars (most of the population of the U.S.). So when the mechanic says it needs $2000 brakes, then the car owner gladly pays it, no questions asked. We, mechanically-inclined people are the minority.
Last winter I had a 2000 full frame Chevy Tracker. It was the best vehicle we've ever owned. I used to carry a tow rope in the truck because we were always pulling stuck tourists out of the snow in their new cars. We sold it and got the Jeep Compass because the wife wanted something better looking. Now that we have a problem-ridden newer Compass, I wish we never sold the Tracker.
 
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tom999w said:
Can you define what you mean by "American based automakers products"? You must be talking about Nissan, BMW, Volkswagon?
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Talking Ford and Chevy ONLY 2 companies who's headquarters are in the U.S.A...the ones you mentioned do have plants here but are NOT headquartered in the U.S.A...heck,Mopar/jeep isn't owned by AMERICANS anymore so sad!!!!
 
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