fabo farmers, what kind of tractor?

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Gryzynx said:
Big X2 on this. I think the MF135 you have has the PTO shield removed. Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like a PTO stub between the rear wheels. This was commonplace because it is a PITA to reach around the shield to disengage the PTO shaft. This tractor will have a live PTO, meaning it turns at all times. Many accidents have happened when the operator dismounts to the back of the running tractor and loose clothing catches in the PTO shaft, (It's turning 540 rpm with 30 hp behind it. You won't stop it manually). Nothing like the loss of life and limb to mess up your stress free retirement.
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a pic of the pto.
at this time, we probably need it more for mowing,snow and bucket duties. by the time the deal closes in a couple of weeks, we are into colder weather, so I don't anticipate much happening with the property in the mean time, although I would like to knock the fields down before. I can deal with the snow blower for now. We found the pto blower out in one of the fields. My wife will probably want to drive it, so it need to be user friendly.
 

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dodgedifferent2 said:
john deere ... you pay for the paint
kubota .... worn out junk from china
keep with popular names and the market, parts will be there
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I agree with you that you pay for paint with a John Deere but Kubota's are not Chineese junk. I have used a Kubota M6800 a lot. The one that we have has over 1000 hours on it and it is still going strong. We have round baled, square baled, loaded countless loads of manure, pulled two bottom plows, and 9ft wide haybines. We have pulled seed drills, bush hogged the side of steep mountains, and just about anything else you could imagine with it. I have seen my dad dig a hole with the loader that was big enough to bury the tractor. And all of this was done on a mountain farm, not flat land where everything is easier to pull. I dont know if any of you are familiar with haylage but it is round bales of hay that Is baled wet and wrapped in plastic and pickles like corn silage. We have used a Kubota 6800 to feed 4x4 rolls of haylage, and if you think that a dry bale is heavy, haylage weighs around 2x more. The 4 wheel drive Kubota's (like ours) have bevel cut gears in the front that allows it to turn extremely tight, about as tight as a 2 wheel drive tractor unlike John deere, new holland and IH who all use universals and cant turn anywhere near as tight. Our neighbor has used it and likes it better than his john deere. I would take it over just about any other tractor on the market. And KUBOTA is from JAPAN NOT CHINA
 
happy you chimed in and mentioned the hills, 72dart. if this make any sense, most of the fields are flat, but the property is rolling and ravines. I don't have a photo of the tougher hills, but a couple that should give you an idea. the 2 main fields are flat, with one grading down to and around the pond.
 

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well, i had emailed the kubota for 4g's and here is the response.

The tractor is in good working condition, clear title, no loans on it. There are no further investments required.
I am not in Canada anymore and that's the reason that I'm selling it. In fact I need money urgent to pay the loan for my house from UK.
It is located at the shipping company and it's ready for shipping. The shipping is free if you are located in Canada.
For any further information or don't hesitate to send me an e-mail.


at least it's not in nigeria!
Have to run to the bank now. be right back!
 
Yup, PTO shield is gone. Pretty easy to fab one up, or try the tractor supply places. It's a simple inverted U shaped shield, deep enough to cover the entire length of the PTO shaft. You can attach it with the same bolts the 3PH chains are attached to.

Beautiful property by the way.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbk81X6WHA4"]YouTube - 1966 opening theme to Green Acres tv show[/ame]
 
that massey would be good if you put in fruit trees. It's short and would be good for brush hogging under between trees. Probably a little clumsy since its old though. Good luck and enjoy!
 
The kubota that you are looking at should have a roll bar on it, which if you are going to bush hog on hills, I believe that it is a necessity, and dont forget that you need to wear a seat belt when using a tractor with a roll bar, other wise the roll bar is use less. Also the L3240 is rated at 32 engine hp and 26.5 pto hp, that is the low end of the power requirements for a 5 ft bush hog. If it was 4wd it would really help pulling the bush hog on hills. If you dont want to bush hog hills, you could get some goats to eat the hills down
 
72dart_swinger said:
I dont know if any of you are familiar with haylage but it is round bales of hay that Is baled wet and wrapped in plastic and pickles like corn silage. We have used a Kubota 6800 to feed 4x4 rolls of haylage, and if you think that a dry bale is heavy, haylage weighs around 2x more.
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Dairy farmer here... heavy is not heavy till you handle that in 4 x 8 size
A neighbor bought a kubota tractor (forget what size it was) he was plowing fields with a 6 furrow plow and within 3 weeks he returned it as scrap metal (not literally) But did not seem to have the horsepower it was rated for.

Either way ... its a personal choice as to which route you go.
 
I am not trying to start an argument or be insulting but I know from personal experience Kubota has a good product line for sub 90 hp applications and that fits more along the lines with what the op needs.
 
plumcrazy704406 said:
well, i had emailed the kubota for 4g's and here is the response.

The tractor is in good working condition, clear title, no loans on it. There are no further investments required.
I am not in Canada anymore and that's the reason that I'm selling it. In fact I need money urgent to pay the loan for my house from UK.
It is located at the shipping company and it's ready for shipping. The shipping is free if you are located in Canada.
For any further information or don't hesitate to send me an e-mail.


at least it's not in nigeria!
Have to run to the bank now. be right back!
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i emailed them back the moneys been sent. wonder when my tractor will arrive?
 
Do I understand it right that the pto's are always live? How do you hook up the attachments to them then? I assumed you had to move a lever or ???? to make them live.
 
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this vid hits home. My stepfather who moved to the country used to cut his grass on his lawn tractor in a suit! I heard through the grapevine, people were watching. I guess in the land of fields an oddity just has to be seen.
He only owned suits! Absolutely no jeans, sweat pants etc.
 
plumcrazy704406 said:
well, it looks like we will be in the market for a farm tractor shortly!
Never having farmed, we could use some suggestions for a tractor.
95 acres, rolling, aprox.20acres farmable for something and with a 5 acre pond. We have an idea that we will need a bucket and pto capabilities, but how does one tell just how much tractor you need?
There is an older mf 135 (non running) with the deal.
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I love my '49 Ford 8N. I did a working restoration on it when I got it. It ain't a trailer queen but EVERYTHING works. I know you probably need somethin more modern.....but "MY" advice is get an older AMERICAN made tractor. Maybe a Jubilee with live PTO. New parts are still readily available. Those things run forever and are made out of way better metal than anything today. That old MS sounds like it's worth lookin into.
 
Pto's have a lever that turns them on and off, and if the kubota that you are looking at is like ours then it wont start if the pto lever is in the on position.
 
see the post a few above 72dart. I don't think the Kubota will be in my drive any time soon.

I won't do anything till we actually close the deal in a week or so. Then I can actually get a good look at the mf135. It would probably do for what we need, but just in case it's scrap, I need to do the info.mining on tractors.

Again, I do appreciate all the opinions and such. Everyone has their fav's of course, but I wanted to hear it from you all, versus someone selling them.

keep the info coming please.
 
Best damn riding lawn mower/ powered wheel burrow I ever bought. It's not a "go out work all day for money" type of equipment, I was tired of buying riding mowers every 3-4 years. Looking back I could have gotten twice the tractor for 1/3 less if I had bought used.......0 hrs on the clock was nice though.
 

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one thing to watch for lawn mowers around here. Home Depot sells john deere lawn mowers. However its an engineered chinese junk with john deere logos on it. Home depot pays john deere royalties to use the name.

Same goes with big chain stores selling welders and what not. Junk, but the company pays royalties to use the name.
 
StrokerScamp said:
I love my '49 Ford 8N. I did a working restoration on it when I got it. It ain't a trailer queen but EVERYTHING works. I know you probably need somethin more modern.....but "MY" advice is get an older AMERICAN made tractor. Maybe a Jubilee with live PTO. New parts are still readily available. Those things run forever and are made out of way better metal than anything today. That old MS sounds like it's worth lookin into.
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well, it looks like my 4g kubota deal is dead, so I will try to get the mf135 back to life. Someone said its a late 60's tractor, so maybe a little flower power to get its bones a movin'. Looks like we can have possession of the property in a week or two . A few minor things to hurdle over. Can't wait for hockey on the pond! Maybe we can do a fabo game! versus the fbbo gaggers! lol If you tractor mechanics wish to help, i am sure I will have a million questions about my new found friend.
lol, asked someone today if tractors have keys, should have seen the look on his face! I am in trouble!
Any other suggestions to needed equipment for a hobby farm with no animals (have no clue as to what we are going to grow) I am listening.
:cheers:
 
plumcrazy704406 said:
Do I understand it right that the pto's are always live? How do you hook up the attachments to them then? I assumed you had to move a lever or ???? to make them live.
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Live PTO does have a lever to engage/disengage, but some tractors, (8N Ford for example), will disconnect the PTO when the transmission is in neutral/clutch depressed. Not very advantageous when you need to keep you PTO equipment running with the tractor stopped. By the way, the MF 135 should have power steering. That's a must have for any loader work.
 
dodgedifferent2 said:
new tractors do have keys. Old ones ... well kinda sorta lol

This website will help you identify facts about the 135

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/7/4/743-massey-ferguson-135.html

as for what equipment. Depends what you have in mind... small vegetable garden? fruit orchard?
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we are thinking some garden, some fruit, some specialty type foliage (not the smokin type) of some sort. This happened so fast, we have to sit down and think about it. any suggestions? property is zone 4--5 by the looks of the maps, but well sheltered in alot of spots.
 
Gryzynx said:
Live PTO does have a lever to engage/disengage, but some tractors, (8N Ford for example), will disconnect the PTO when the transmission is in neutral/clutch depressed. Not very advantageous when you need to keep you PTO equipment running with the tractor stopped. By the way, the MF 135 should have power steering. That's a must have for any loader work.
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can't get up there till the weekend. will have better look at the 135 then. how do I tell if the hydraulics that run the attachements is also for the brakes?
 
plumcrazy704406 said:
can't get up there till the weekend. will have better look at the 135 then. how do I tell if the hydraulics that run the attachements is also for the brakes?
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My Industrial 35 had an integral pump in the transmission that powered the hydraulics. Reservoir was somehow buried within the axle/transmission as well. Interesting thing was the loader had an extended reservoir built into the uprights for the loader frame, (sqaure tubing). Brakes are completely manual. Power steering ran off a pump on the engine and used a ram assist on the tie rod.
 
I've got a Belarus 90 hp. Not very common, made in U.S.S.R., no joke! The can't read any of the gauges because of all the backwards "R"s! Seriously, we killed a couple of fords, and a MF (all used) before my grandfather bought the Belarus new and it is a BEAST! We had a sawmill and about 20 acres of garden. We would drag logs all winter and plow all summer. The big drawback is finding parts, but I suspect the internet will take some of the sting out of it if it ever breaks down again! It is mine now, and about 35 years old, I don't garden, and we sold off the sawmill, bit I bush hog with it and use it to drag cars around. The last breakdown was around '88 when we needed a fuel filter assembly (this nasty mold will grow in desil fuel and freeze), about 5 years ago I broke the exhaust manifold when the muffler got hung on a tree limb, but got my uncle to weld it back with some kind of "magic" welding rod (he never would tell me). You will not regret buying too big, but to small will make your new hobby a chore.

Good Luck with the MF, as long as nothing is broken and you are not in a big rush, it should be a fun project. If you think a hot-rod is a fun toy, wait 'till you start bullying thing around with a tractor - greatest feeling in the world!
 
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