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zkx14 said:
I was busy splitting wood and mowing leaves earlier. Wife burned her finger with hot melt glue yesterday and wasn't into cooking. So, I tossed a frozen peperoni pizza in the oven. 15 minutes later - dinner served. And a couple beers of course.
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Sorry to hear about burning her finger. Understandable not wanting to cook and clean like that.
At least you had a backup plan!
Tiny yard here! I'll wait til more leaves are down and if they're not too wet, collect and run them through the neighbor's shredder. Probably another week. Walnut and hawthorne aer done but lots of others are just turning. Crazy they weren't all down by Halloween.
 
Mattax said:
But do you think its the same as the stuff sprayed in the fenderwells on the non-undercoated cars?
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The sound deadener is the same across all cars regardless of whether they got undercoating or not. The undercoating was the option, the sound deadener was standard.
 
Mattax said:
Sounds GRRREAT!!!

Stuffed myself with leftover chicken roast, potatoes and sweet potatoes etc. Soup was mushroom barley. Just enough left for tommorrow. Then I'll make chicken soap - of course!
Salad was had some fresh turnip greens. This is prob the last I'll be able get fresh.
Brought in some arrugala that survived the freeze. Nasturtiums are gone.
Planted some shallots and garlic a neighbor gave me. We'll see in the Spring how they do. Low risk experiment... View attachment 1715421622
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Pretty stuffed too.

Bill

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Mattax said:
Yes - Sound deadner as DDaddy indicated. Siumilar was "Rubberized undercoating" used to be sold in aerosol cans at the parts stores. Some of the restoration oriented owners have discssion about the best replica.
Like others, I never liked the fact if there was any crack, or it started to flake, moisture would get trapped against the metal.
My car only had it in the wheelwells, so I left it. The rest I painted with marine epoxy. Laying on the the floor - car on jackstands. Lots of fun - not.
But no complaints it was a desert car without the general undercoat option. Could have been a lot worse!
Rustoleum changed the formulation of their rusty metal primer. Its too soon for me to comment on whether it is as good as it was. Yes - like most primers it has high permeability and needs topcoating to protect the metal against moisture.
Corroless is a different story. When dry it is highly moisture resistant. It uses several different technologies than other rusty metal primers. Its a British product that as far as I know, currently has no distributors or retailers in the USA. If you find otherwise, please let me know. They might or might not ship it direct. Prob the easiest way is to find a UK source who ships.
IIRC the one paint that can not be used over Corroless is Hammerite. Hammerite is styrenated something or another. Its licensed for manufacture here in US by Masterchem so readily available.


Dave answered that.

For nooks, crannies and other places that can't be properly prepped and painted there are a number of non-curing waxy products. Waxoyl is one I've used - also a UK item but available here. Lets face it face, the Brits are rust experts. View attachment 1715421616 View attachment 1715421617 View attachment 1715421618
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Are you telling me to start importing Corroless Red Oxide Primer for all the A body lovers ? :lol:

Bill
 
Good evening. Spent the last warm day of the week cutting brush and trees. Clearing my driveway. 950 ft thru the woods. Then worked a bit on the rafters for my new little modular shop.
 
The weeds in my yard got away from me this summer when we had a very unusual monsoon spell in August.

The weeds now cover a few cars ( at least I don't need fencing to hide them now.)

My solution, I am going to buy a goat and let it graze and graze till there's nothing left then I am going to cook and eat the goat.

Win / win for me
Win/ lose for the goat
 
Bills65Dart said:
Are you telling me to start importing Corroless Red Oxide Primer for all the A body lovers ? :lol:

Bill
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Nope. I would use fluid-film every time over that. That stuff requires a perfectly clean surface to adhere and protect....Fluid-film doesn’t.
 
Rainy Day Auto said:
The weeds in my yard got away from me this summer when we had a very unusual monsoon spell in August.

The weeds now cover a few cars ( at least I don't need fencing to hide them now.)

My solution, I am going to buy a goat and let it graze and graze till there's nothing left then I am going to cook and eat the goat.

Win / win for me
Win/ lose for the goat
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Get about 4. And make sure you feed them some grains. They won’t just go eat weeds. Or rather they are like barn cats. Gotta feed them just enough but not over do it. That way they have energy to go hunt and eat the mice( or weeds in the goats case).

Been raising goats for 32 years.
 
Rainy Day Auto said:
Too bad pigs don't graze grass.

Can you imagine solving a weed and debris problem and then getting bacon after a job well done.
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Actually, the best weed and debris killers, chickens. They will literally eat everything done to the bare dirt
 
Ddaddy said:
Nope. I would use fluid-film every time over that. That stuff requires a perfectly clean surface to adhere and protect....Fluid-film doesn’t.
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Huh ? Corroless Red Oxide Primer (Rust Killer) is made for using on rust, and is a regular primer to use under regular paint, for example like semi gloss black. It is not a fluid film replacement. Would for example be excellent inside the car, on the floor pans, or in the trunk, before painting the car.

Bill
 
Sorry, no goat for me unless you know how to fix it so it doesn't taste like goats smell. Yuck. Not a fan of lamb either. In fact a lot of the pork now days has a smell to it like the hog confinement units they raise them in now days. Give me a pig raised on dirt and I'll show you some goooooood pork. I can taste the difference between grass fed and grain fed beef as well. Grass fed taste like dairy cow. There's a difference there too between dairy cows and say Black Angus.
 
dukeboy_318 said:
Get about 4. And make sure you feed them some grains. They won’t just go eat weeds. Or rather they are like barn cats. Gotta feed them just enough but not over do it. That way they have energy to go hunt and eat the mice( or weeds in the goats case).

Been raising goats for 32 years.
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Any pics??
I might need to pick your brain
 
Guy here used to raise pigs.
Haagenbob was his nickname. man, they were awesome.
Then the market went out the window and no more tasty pork.
We get from a local hutterite colony once a year, and have a big get-together. Usually 30-40 people.
The only goats i know are friendly pets,they arent gettin eaten.
 
Bills65Dart said:
Huh ? Corroless Red Oxide Primer (Rust Killer) is made for using on rust, and is a regular primer to use under regular paint, for example like semi gloss black. It is not a fluid film replacement. Would for example be excellent inside the car, on the floor pans, or in the trunk, before painting the car.

Bill
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You can’t spray it over rust and have it protect, it just reacts with the top layer. You have to remove the majority of the rust first for it to work. It won’t neutralize rust very far down, it is a paint that just sits on top and can’t penetrate very deeply.

Fluid-film can be sprayed over rust and will inhibit any further corrosion because it is in an oil carrier that penetrates deeply carrying the lanolin wax into the pores of the corrosion and creates an oxygen and moisture barrier that shuts down the corrosion process.
 
Ddaddy said:
You can’t spray it over rust and have it protect, it just reacts with the top layer. You have to remove the majority of therust firs for it to work. It won’t neutralize rust very far down, it is a paint that just sits on top and can’t penetrate very deeply.

Fluid-film can be sprayed over rust and will inhibit any further corrosion because it is in an oil carrier that penetrates deeply carrying the lanolin wasinto the pores of the corrosion and creates an oxygen and moisture barrier that shuts down the corrosion process.
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I wonder if that's what Rustoleum is like?
 
Ddaddy said:
You can’t spray it over rust and have it protect, it just reacts with the top layer. You have to remove the majority of therust firs for it to work. It won’t neutralize rust very far down, it is a paint that just sits on top and can’t penetrate very deeply.

Fluid-film can be sprayed over rust and will inhibit any further corrosion because it is in an oil carrier that penetrates deeply carrying the lanolin wasinto the pores of the corrosion and creates an oxygen and moisture barrier that shuts down the corrosion process.
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I know that, but it does not have to be sandblasted steel, it works fine on a surface with a light dust of rust.

But, my point was that those two products can not be compared. You can use Corroless as a primer for other paints, but Fluid film as far as I understand it never really dries like to a hard surface you can paint on top of. Two different purposes.

Bill
 
Bills65Dart said:
I know that, but it does not have to be sandblasted steel, it works fine on a surface with a light dust of rust.

But, my point was that those two products can not be compared. You can use Corroless as a primer for other paints, but Fluid film as far as I understand it never really dries like to a hard surface you can paint on top of. Two different purposes.

Bill
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Yes, but you started by asking about undercoat protection and Corroless isn’t suitable for that. Fluid-film is.
 
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