Car shows- Something does not make sense

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Here we are charged a nominal fee to enter the car show. That evening all entries are given door prizes that equal or exceed the entry fee.

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My wife won the Police officers pick trophy for the all original category with her 1950 Dodge Wayfarer, maybe I should get a early 50's car and I would win something!
 
Kern Dog said:
Car shows that are set up by car clubs are essentially a fund raiser.
Our Sacramento Mopar club has one show a year and it funds all the club's activities and financial obligations for the following year.
For the club, there are monthly meetings at a place that always comes at a price. We used to pay $100 a month for just ONE meeting that lasted maybe 2 1/2 hours. Storage of car show equipment costs money. The various other activities like show and shines, holiday dinner parties, cruise-in food and drinks....it all costs money.
It sounds arrogant to hear people say....Why should I pay to be in a show? I'm providing the car!
Yeah....The club has to rent the venue, buy trophies, food, (If we are selling it) T-shirts, raffle prizes, pay a photographer, pay someone to play music, there is computer software, paper and ink, clean-up fees, sometimes security personnel is needed too.
Some clubs on the West coast have to pay over $5000 to rent a place to have the show.
If the clubs don't make money on their shows, the club goes broke and disbands. THEN you won't have a local show to take your car.
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So what your telling us is the non club members that bring their classic cars and the general public who want to see them are in fact funding your car club.
You wrote your once a year show funds ALL activities and financial obligations.
Sounds a little selfish to me and im sure to others as well.
No where in your post did I read that you and your club put on a show and donate some of the revenue to charitable causes.
I wouldn't expect any club to shoulder the entire financial burden of putting a nice family oriented type car show but using the profits to finance their club sounds like a money making scheme.
 
The club has given to Vietnam Veterans association and the Boy scouts.
Money making scheme...yeah. It is an honest way to make money, not a scheme like welfare.
 
One of my pet bitches. If they charged a few bucks to all that attend they could make their profit. I bring my car to their show and pay for the pleasure of people seeing my car ?? We just had a show with over 1200 cars and they charged $20 for your car to be there, and free to the thousands that came to see it. It's like Elvis paying to perform and everybody getting in free .........well, not now :eek: .. but you get the idea. Also while I'm bitching, new cars should have there own spot rather than taking spaces from the classics. I can go to a showroom if I want to see new cars. The venue has to send them to a back row, it's usually listed as a classic cruise night.
 
Kern Dog said:
The club has given to Vietnam Veterans association and the Boy scouts.
Money making scheme...yeah. It is an honest way to make money, not a scheme like welfare.
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But you did not write that until questioned.
What you did write was there is expenses like renting someplace to have your meetings and the one that really stood out was and I quote "Holliday dinner parties".
So you and your pals are so cheap that you took the profits from the car show and applied it to your Christmas party.....
 
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44070dart said:
One of my pet bitches. If they charged a few bucks to all that attend they could make their profit. I bring my car to their show and pay for the pleasure of people seeing my car ?? We just had a show with over 1200 cars and they charged $20 for your car to be there, and free to the thousands that came to see it. It's like Elvis paying to perform and everybody getting in free .........well, not now :eek: .. but you get the idea. Also while I'm bitching, new cars should have there own spot rather than taking spaces from the classics. I can go to a showroom if I want to see new cars. The venue has to send them to a back row, it's usually listed as a classic cruise night.
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Im not supporting his car club activities by paying to enter his clubs show.....I mean really did you read that post?
 
Steve welder said:
But you did not write that until questioned.
What you did write was there is expenses like renting someplace to have your meetings and the one that really stood out was and I quote "Holliday dinner parties".
So you and your pals are so cheap that you took some of the profits from the car show and applied it to your Christmas party.....
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Wow, you expect him to tell you every little detail about how his club is run and respond like this? Who the hell are you?

The clubs I have been in have all charged a fee. There are logistics to deal with, entertainment to pay for , t-shirts the registrants get, trophies to pay for, sometimes insurance costs etc. The list goes on. Maybe the problem is you don't have a clue as to what goes into putting on a decent show?

We invited charities to come and participate who benefited greatly from the exposure. Car owners who also happen to be restoration business types get exposure, others just like to hang out on a nice day surrounded by other cool cars, music, make connections, find parts etc.

10 or 20 bucks is a cheep fee for a day of what a lot of people call entertainment.

Jeez...
 
It's tough (and costly) to put on a big show. THe Mopar club I belong to puts on a show every year at the drag strip with racing, car show and swap meet and we blow through $10,000 pretty quick. We are a non profit and any left over profit get's donated to Veterans organizations and the regional Food Banks.
 
toolmanmike said:
It's tough (and costly) to put on a big show. THe Mopar club I belong to puts on a show every year at the drag strip with racing, car show and swap meet and we blow through $10,000 pretty quick. We are a non profit and any left over profit get's donated to Veterans organizations and the regional Food Banks.
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Bingo and thanks. Im glad you brought up the not for profit
 
Some people joined FABO just to ***** and complain about anything and everything. I would think it won’t be long before he is history.
 
Steve welder said:
Im not supporting his car club activities by paying to enter his clubs show.....I mean really did you read that post?
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Have no idea what your ***** is about. The car club events that are fund raisers for some charity... I'm good with that. I'm talking about places that have cruise nights to support there own agenda, on their own grounds which cost them nothing. Also they also rake in a portion of any food trucks that show up. That is my complaint.
 
Steve welder said:
Obvious you give a ****....I do go and I just went and gladly shelled out the twenty dollar entrance fee plus another twenty for a raffle.....That club is a not for profit and all extra money goes to chartable causes
And they pay for their own holiday parties
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Hah, yeah, you mistake my "wtf"ness for giving a ****.

Car shows are entertainment. I don't give a **** what they do with the money. If i want to be entertained with a bunch of cars, bench racing etc, that's my choice... lol..
 
Still, I don't see anything wrong with what he said.

Car shows fund clubs. Clubs promote the hobby. Shows are not easy work and cost money. At every meeting we did a 50/50 and raffle. The prizes were usually stupid, but the money went to charity. Every function resulted in some form of charity. Just because he didn't provide the full operational methods of his club, you jumped on him. Bad form all the way around.
 
The local Ford dealer put on a car show. And I never enter my car to be judged. I bought some 50/50 tickets and was waiting for the drawing. When they announced my 69 Dart as 1st place Day driver. My wife had entered my car. Then I won the 50/50 drawing. If I remember it was like 80.00. Car show was for homeless Vets. I donated my winnings. Ain’t always about the money.
 
thesiren74 said:
My wife won the Police officers pick trophy for the all original category with her 1950 Dodge Wayfarer, maybe I should get a early 50's car and I would win something!
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Alot of early 50s "pre OHV v-8" cars can be had fairly cheap..the 1954 chevy for example, a 4 door ,they are around for under 10 grand, sometimes under 5 and they run and drive...
 
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Cuda416 said:
Still, I don't see anything wrong with what he said.

Car shows fund clubs. Clubs promote the hobby. Shows are not easy work and cost money. At every meeting we did a 50/50 and raffle. The prizes were usually stupid, but the money went to charity. Every function resulted in some form of charity. Just because he didn't provide the full operational methods of his club, you jumped on him. Bad form all the way around.
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Thanks. Steve From Staten Island was just being exactly who he always is.

I'll repeat:
Car shows cost money to run. Our club does not carry a large balance of money. Monthly meetings have to be held somewhere. Do you want 30-40 people at your house for a meeting? We hold our meetings at an auto museum for $50 a month. We do give some money to charities but I'll make no apologies or excuses for how we spend the money. We don't force anyone to enter their car in our show.
It is impossible to charge spectators at our shows because there is no fencing around the venue. People just wander in from parking lots, sidewalks, anywhere, really.
How about the shows that charge spectators AND show car people? How come Steve From Staten Island isn't complaining about that ? Carlisle? Ohio Nationals? MCACN ?
Steve From Staten Island complains because I am one of the many that he has met that will not tolerate his actions.
 
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Kern Dog said:
Steve From Staten Island:
You are getting emotional again. You are an easy target for guys like me because you are extremely outspoken and make numerous mistakes.
For one, my comment you referenced was at night, 8:53 PM.
Secondly, YES, you joined the Charger forum just to send me 2 messages. You still have zero posts there.
Thirdly, I have not injected politics here let alone "constantly".
Good evening, Steve From Staten Island.
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Greg you want a honest answer? I read the stuff about cars there as someone told me about the forum no politics no bs just cars and yes I saw you were a member there and wrote you
 
Steve From Staten Island post: 1973605192 said:
Greg you want a honest answer? I read the stuff about cars there as someone told me about the forum no politics no bs just cars and yes I saw you were a member there and wrote you
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Well, we finally agree on something.
 
We have a nice show here put on by a antique car club I think once a year.
I wasn't going to go this year but changed my mind at the last minute.
Its twenty to enter with your car....Five for adult spectators and they charge vendors.
Its a well run organised show but as I said its a long day.
I enjoy talking to the people there and I always meet someone interesting.
I like it when folks come up and tell me their stories about the roadrunner or GTX or Dart they had back in the day
I do enjoy the Sunday morning cruise at the park a lot better.
In that picture I posted were I was parked I was surrounded by guys in Corvettes later on in the day
These guys carried on about my car, who had one back in the day stuff like that
The Pontiac guys are great and im friendly with them
I met a guy who had a 64 Chrysler two door black paint, the car was immaculate the interior was like the day it was new....The car was spectacular....So im talking to the guy who owned it and it turns out he is a part time actor who had a small role in a popular TV show from some years ago....
So cars and talking meeting different folks, thats all its about for me
Sorry for the unneeded drama in the other posts.
 
diymirage said:
i also feel they should pay me, the spectator, for every 2000 and up vehicle on display


its a car show, not a dealer lot
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I agree with that. I am NOT trashing my fellow FABO brothers who own modern Mopar muscle, but I am getting a little tired of going to all Mopar car shows and seeing 60% modern stuff. I KNOW it is probably the future; I'm just sayin.
 
The ratio of new versus classic has reached the 50/50 mark in many places. Rarely though do we see a showroom stock new car at our shows unless it is a rare model like the Demon or Hellcat Redeye. The new car guys are passionate about their cars too.
I am not a doomsayer type but yeah, time is marching on. We used to get a good showing of Imperials, early 300s, even pre-war Mopars but they are not coming to the show in great numbers like they used to. The people that own them are elderly and may not even drive them anymore. It is sad because I like to see a variety of classics, not just the fast ones.
 
Kern Dog said:
The ratio of new versus classic has reached the 50/50 mark in many places. Rarely though do we see a showroom stock new car at our shows unless it is a rare model like the Demon or Hellcat Redeye. The new car guys are passionate about their cars too.
I am not a doomsayer type but yeah, time is marching on. We used to get a good showing of Imperials, early 300s, even pre-war Mopars but they are not coming to the show in great numbers like they used to. The people that own them are elderly and may not even drive them anymore. It is sad because I like to see a variety of classics, not just the fast ones.
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I think it's interesting how many people have forgotten that car shows used to have "new" Cuda's, Challengers, Mustangs, Superbirds etc. People put custom paint on them, shiny valve covers and N50's on slots. That's how it was.... So soon we forget...
 
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