15” limited choices: Cooper Cobra vs Mastercraft Avenger vs BFG Radial T/A vs ?

Tires and Wheels (Mopar Hubcaps Too)

Which currently available 15” Non-drag radials would you buy?

  1. BF Goodrich Radial T/A

    24 vote(s)
    36.4%
  2. Mastercraft Avenger GT

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  3. Cooper Cobra

    32 vote(s)
    48.5%
  4. Other (state in a post)

    5 vote(s)
    7.6%
  5. Drive around on four drag radials

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  6. walk instead

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  1. jbc426

    jbc426 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,925
    Likes Received:
    729
    Joined:
    May 30, 2007
    Location:
    West Coast
    Local Time:
    4:56 PM
    I always look for the tire with the highest speed rating, which is getting harder to find. I avoid anything other than a "V" rating.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • 72bluNblu

      72bluNblu FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

      Messages:
      11,212
      Likes Received:
      5738
      Joined:
      Nov 28, 2008
      Location:
      NorCal
      Local Time:
      4:56 PM
      And what size would that be exactly?

      I know how the search function works. You have a V rated, 300 or better wear DOT legal street tire that’s wider than 225 and taller than 25” for a 15” rim?
       
    • 66fs

      66fs FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

      Messages:
      5,231
      Likes Received:
      1852
      Joined:
      Sep 9, 2009
      Location:
      Greenwood, South Carolina
      Local Time:
      7:56 PM
      Not really for you. You said they could not be had. I was trying to give general advise to help the OP. I run same tires all around and I run shorter tires. I go for performance rather than looks. V rated less than 300 DOT legal tires. RRR found one.
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • 72bluNblu

        72bluNblu FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

        Messages:
        11,212
        Likes Received:
        5738
        Joined:
        Nov 28, 2008
        Location:
        NorCal
        Local Time:
        4:56 PM
        No he didn’t. They’re V rated but the 235’s he linked are a 400 tread wear, “A” traction, “A” temp.

        So again, what size are you talking about for a V rated, less than 300 tread wear, wider than 225 tire? Because that’s what I said wasn’t out there. And unless you’re talking ~24” tall tires, they aren’t.
         
      • RustyRatRod

        RustyRatRod Lemmie see your b00bs. FABO Gold Member

        Messages:
        67,693
        Likes Received:
        41927
        Joined:
        Jun 7, 2010
        Location:
        Georgia
        Local Time:
        7:56 PM
        Why? Those ratings are for SUSTAINED speed. You're just limiting yourself for absolutely no reason.
         
        • Agree Agree x 2
        • 72bluNblu

          72bluNblu FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

          Messages:
          11,212
          Likes Received:
          5738
          Joined:
          Nov 28, 2008
          Location:
          NorCal
          Local Time:
          4:56 PM
          They’re better tires, that’s why. Lower speed rated tires don’t perform as well as the higher speed rated tires, even at lower speeds.

          And it’s a preference too, they don’t handle the same. If all you ever do is cruise to the Dairy Queen and the local show it doesn’t much matter. If you like more spirited driving, the higher rated tires perform better even if you don’t use them at the maximum sustained speeds they’re rated for. Just added insurance too, like running larger brakes than what you need to stop the car around town on a nice dry day. Because when it matters the conditions probably won’t be ideal.
           
          • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
          • 66fs

            66fs FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

            Messages:
            5,231
            Likes Received:
            1852
            Joined:
            Sep 9, 2009
            Location:
            Greenwood, South Carolina
            Local Time:
            7:56 PM
            First, my first post was a general comment to the OP on how I pick tires. The OP wants to run 15 inch tires. Second, I was talking about tires for my 66 Formula S. I use my own criteria, not yours. Since you seem to want an argument for some unknown reason. My tires are on the car are an older set similar to these. Not about you. End of conversation.

            https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...955VR5Z3&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
             
            • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
            • 72bluNblu

              72bluNblu FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

              Messages:
              11,212
              Likes Received:
              5738
              Joined:
              Nov 28, 2008
              Location:
              NorCal
              Local Time:
              4:56 PM
              I’m not trying to start an argument, I just asked what size tires you were talking about. You said you had tires that met those specs, but nothing in a size relevant for the OP comes with those specs that I’m aware of, so I asked. You said to search. Well, I know how to use that function and again, nothing relevant.

              And I agree, it’s not about me. The tires you’re talking about are 23.5” tall. Which isn’t appropriate at all for a 67+ A body. They’re not really appropriate for an early-A frankly, those are super short tires, but run what you want. That’s why I wanted you to post what size tires you were talking about, so the OP could decide if they were an appropriate choice. Why you didn’t answer a simple question I don’t know.
               
              • Agree Agree x 1
              • RustyRatRod

                RustyRatRod Lemmie see your b00bs. FABO Gold Member

                Messages:
                67,693
                Likes Received:
                41927
                Joined:
                Jun 7, 2010
                Location:
                Georgia
                Local Time:
                7:56 PM
                No one is arguing. I was pointing out a fact that you may not know in order to try and help. I won't make that mistake again. End of conversation.
                 
                Last edited: May 31, 2020
              • dartfreak75

                dartfreak75 Restore it, Dont part it! FABO Gold Member

                Messages:
                9,382
                Likes Received:
                6956
                Joined:
                Aug 10, 2011
                Location:
                Virginia
                Local Time:
                7:56 PM
                How does the wear rating affect performance? I know what the wear rating means but how does that correlate in performance? The higher the rate number the harder the rubber? (Maybe) I know the higher the number the longer they are supposed to last compared to a test tire. Iv always shopped for a higher rating to get more life out of them.
                 
              • RustyRatRod

                RustyRatRod Lemmie see your b00bs. FABO Gold Member

                Messages:
                67,693
                Likes Received:
                41927
                Joined:
                Jun 7, 2010
                Location:
                Georgia
                Local Time:
                7:56 PM
                The softer compound, the better the grip on the road but the faster it wears.
                 
                • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
                • Agree Agree x 1
                • dartfreak75

                  dartfreak75 Restore it, Dont part it! FABO Gold Member

                  Messages:
                  9,382
                  Likes Received:
                  6956
                  Joined:
                  Aug 10, 2011
                  Location:
                  Virginia
                  Local Time:
                  7:56 PM
                  Thats what I figured. Thanks for confirming my suspension. Haha
                   
                • YY1

                  YY1 Well-Known Member

                  Messages:
                  7,295
                  Likes Received:
                  2954
                  Joined:
                  Oct 11, 2011
                  Location:
                  FL
                  Local Time:
                  7:56 PM
                  It's a balancing act between the three ratings.

                  Finding the right balance for you is the task.

                  Sometimes you find one that doesn't trade off too much, like the Kumo Ecsta 711 I used to run on my Dakota R/T.

                  WAY better treadwear than the factory goodyears with just as good if not better traction and temp.

                  I really miss those since they quit making them in my size.
                   
                  • Agree Agree x 2
                  • 66fs

                    66fs FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

                    Messages:
                    5,231
                    Likes Received:
                    1852
                    Joined:
                    Sep 9, 2009
                    Location:
                    Greenwood, South Carolina
                    Local Time:
                    7:56 PM
                    You know that my comment was not directed at you. I actually thought you were spot on and had found a nice tire for the OP. I like your mug on your avatar.
                     
                    • Agree Agree x 1
                    • YY1

                      YY1 Well-Known Member

                      Messages:
                      7,295
                      Likes Received:
                      2954
                      Joined:
                      Oct 11, 2011
                      Location:
                      FL
                      Local Time:
                      7:56 PM
                      ...and cost.
                       
                      • Agree Agree x 1
                      • 66fs

                        66fs FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

                        Messages:
                        5,231
                        Likes Received:
                        1852
                        Joined:
                        Sep 9, 2009
                        Location:
                        Greenwood, South Carolina
                        Local Time:
                        7:56 PM
                        OK. My first post was a general comment on how the OP could differentiate between his choices, for his car, using his criteria. I don't want to choose tires for the OP. I don't want to choose tires for you. I am sure you are quite capable. It is part of the process I use when I pick tires for my 2 A body cars and the other 2 A body cars I keep up for my son and brother. All 4 cars run 15 inch rims and all 4 sets are very different for each person and the general usage of the car. The 23.5 OD tires on the 66 are fine for what I want. They don't know they are too short. I never had a problem picking 15 inch tires for any of the cars. Are they optimum? Probably not, but they all work just fine.
                         
                      • barbee6043

                        barbee6043 barbee 6043 FABO Gold Member

                        Messages:
                        13,291
                        Likes Received:
                        5959
                        Joined:
                        Jul 20, 2008
                        Location:
                        Shepherd, Texas ( SE Tx)
                        Local Time:
                        6:56 PM
                        I bought a couple of cheap WallyWorldtires for sapes. Yep they were cheap $$$$. So I take them to the local tire shop, the one and only, good guy, speaks a little English, I only know the bad Spanish words, but anyway. He is trying to tell how just how soft the sidewalls are. Not good tires!!!
                        I tell him I now but I am old school and I want a spare. Tell him I paid $50 each and I will give him $5 each to mount, NO balance!!!
                        I do by decent tires from him for the other 4 wheels that roll on the roadsl!
                        I don't need high mileage tires, they will rot off before I can wear them out. Don't need high speed rated tires, I do not drive fast enough to get a ticket.
                        I don't want to pay the same $$ for a 15 inch 4 ply tire for my old cars that I pay for 8 ply tires for the pickup!!
                         
                      • Lil Demon

                        Lil Demon Well-Known Member

                        Messages:
                        254
                        Likes Received:
                        103
                        Joined:
                        Mar 23, 2011
                        Location:
                        Laredo, Texas
                        Local Time:
                        6:56 PM
                        I've been cruising all sorts of different tire manufacturers websites trying to find some meaty, sticky, don't really care about DOT certification tires that are between 26-27 inches tall for my Demon. I really love the look of the new BFG 245/40-15 Rival 1.5 tires but at 22.7 inch diameter man they totally burst my bubble. I'm hoping they eventually make a larger 15 inch tire, but they probably won't due to sidewall height.
                         
                        • Agree Agree x 1
                        • kursplat

                          kursplat FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

                          Messages:
                          3,750
                          Likes Received:
                          2635
                          Joined:
                          Aug 24, 2010
                          Location:
                          so cal
                          Local Time:
                          4:56 PM
                          which is why talking about keeping a performance, summer compound tire for multiple years is a bit of a joke. i don't know why i would want to. they're going to heat cycle or age out after a year anyway. i'd rather get a really soft tire (UTQG 200 or less), and wear them out every year. all of which has nothing to do with the OP's question. he's got a very narrow criteria he's looking at. all of his selections will work fine for everyday driving. if he decides to auto-x or do a track day (which i don't think he mentioned), he should get another set of wheels and tires
                           
                          • Agree Agree x 1
                          • MRGTX

                            MRGTX Well-Known Member

                            Messages:
                            1,904
                            Likes Received:
                            738
                            Joined:
                            Sep 24, 2007
                            Location:
                            CT, USA
                            Local Time:
                            6:56 PM
                            Oh, I’m with you on this 100%.
                            As far as I know, that second set of 200 treadwear tires is a fantasy...assuming you’re talking about 15” in useful outer diameter sizes.

                            Here in the USA, there are no performance oriented 26” tall (give or take) tires for 15” wheels...aside from drag racing tires. If I’m wrong about that, please say so and make my day. :)

                            My choices were only limited because I wanted a matched set and my front wheels (which I like and want to stick with) limit me to a 225.
                             
                          • MOPAROFFICIAL

                            MOPAROFFICIAL FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

                            Messages:
                            7,292
                            Likes Received:
                            6376
                            Joined:
                            Jun 1, 2016
                            Location:
                            Beach
                            Local Time:
                            4:56 PM
                            I have a 67 valiant, not lowered but not sitting like a horse carriage either and the best fender clearance started with a 215 60 or 65 14" front and 245 60 14 rear bfg 14x7 slot mags
                             
                            • Agree Agree x 1
                            • 1969VADart

                              1969VADart FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

                              Messages:
                              2,395
                              Likes Received:
                              686
                              Joined:
                              Aug 19, 2013
                              Location:
                              Fredericksburg, VA
                              Local Time:
                              7:56 PM
                              I run 215/65R15 Mastercraft Avenger GT's on all four corners. They are mounted on 15x7s. I have no complaints. They drive and handle well. I think they look just as good as the BFG's. I guess if I had a complaint it would be that the specific size I run is getting harder to find.

                              IMG_4808.JPG
                               
                              • Like Like x 3
                              • IMFURYS

                                IMFURYS IMFURYS FABO Gold Member

                                Messages:
                                307
                                Likes Received:
                                181
                                Joined:
                                Aug 9, 2013
                                Location:
                                Portsmouth, VA
                                Local Time:
                                7:56 PM
                                Those are pretty sharp looking. Always nice to see other Mopar supporters in VA (Portsmouth here).
                                 
                                • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
                                • MRGTX

                                  MRGTX Well-Known Member

                                  Messages:
                                  1,904
                                  Likes Received:
                                  738
                                  Joined:
                                  Sep 24, 2007
                                  Location:
                                  CT, USA
                                  Local Time:
                                  6:56 PM
                                  Those look great and the wheels are sharp too.

                                  Nothing wrong with Avengers, Radial T/A, Cobra, etc...and while they’re better than any street tire that hotrodders had to work with back in the 70s, make no mistake: these are all season tires made from compounds that are compromised for a broad temperature range and long wear, and they have treads designed to handle rain and even a bit of snow if necessary. All good things for cars that people rely on every day to get to work...

                                  If you want optimal performance, these tires are a weak link for all of us who love their 15” wheels. It’s like showing up for the 100m sprint at the track meet wearing sensible loafers.
                                   
                                  • Like Like x 1
                                  • 12swinger

                                    12swinger Well-Known Member

                                    Messages:
                                    425
                                    Likes Received:
                                    540
                                    Joined:
                                    Jun 26, 2013
                                    Location:
                                    Hoosier
                                    Local Time:
                                    6:56 PM
                                    Just put Hankook Kynergy ST on the Challenger and am shocked the difference between the less than 3 year old Cooper Cobras I haven’t liked since day one.
                                    Car drives better then most late model rides, especially with the Borgeson gearbox, just finished a 80 mile cruise and the ride is night and day.
                                    Biggest issue was finding certain sizes, as I got about the only 255/60r15 in the USA seemed like plenty of 235/60r15 fronts though.
                                    I mounted black out, as I’m done with white letters.
                                     
                                    • Like Like x 3
                                    1. This site uses cookies to help personalize content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                                      By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.