1965 Valiant 200

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Was able to remove the slant six and trans from the Valiant this last Saturday. Had to reset the chain and disconnect a few things along the way but got it out without too much hassle.




Then, on Sunday, worked on removing those extra layers of paint in the engine compartment. Small pressure washer did most of the work with only minimal 120-grit doing the rest of the work. The area under the battery tray is the only area that will need to be patched up. Going to be coating the rusted areas with some inhibiter before repainting.

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Had some time to run most of the wiring I could complete up to this point. All the coiled wiring needs to wait until I have the engine in there. Gonna be using a Fitech system with a Holley in-tank 58psi fuel pump. The wiring for that also needs wait until engine is in. I was, however, able to install the cleaned up tank, fuel pump, and fuel injection hose from tank to engine compartment. Waiting on all new tank seals to arrive before I lock it down. Pictures on that later this week.
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Looking good and a job well done. The rear and wheels look great.That rear I completely rebuilt.
Hang on to those wheels.This is where Kursplat go 'um from.
Look familiar ?
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Lots of little things this weekend. Changed out the /6 rotating rod-style pedal for the V8 throttle cable-style pedal. You can see the firewall has the bolt hole locations marked with dimples so it makes locating the new assembly very easy.
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I did not take the V8 outer bracket into consideration when I installed my wiring harness pass-through bracket and they were overlapping, so I had to make a slight modification to the wiring bracket.....
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Had the fuel tank cleaned up last week and I reinstalled with new filler tank seal, trunk seal, and new tank-to-body mat.
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Here is the Holley EFI in-tank fuel pump. This is internally regulated to 58psi and the overflow drops back into the tank so you do not have to run a return line.
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Had a little extra time so I also installed the floor shifter.
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Great update! I didn't know you could get a intake pump to fit in the stock tank like that. Do you have any pics of the pump before it was installed in the tank?
 
Picked up my TTI header-back 2.5" exhaust on my way home from work.

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Had a little bit of time this evening so I was able to install the rearmost pipe on both sides. On my 65, the hanger by the mufflers goes directly into the body right behind the rear seats. Locating exactly where the brackets should go is a little confusing but I found the easy way was to install the hangers by the back bumper and let the pipe hang from there. Then install the hangers onto the pipe and hold the assembly up to where it should be. Once you do this, it helps point out exactly where they are getting the measurements from for the bracket location. After that, then I removed the body brackets and marked the holes for drilling. Easy-peasy after that. Clearance seems to fit perfectly so far. Not pictured here but the only adjustment I had to make was cutting the(very long) threaded gas tank strap bolt on the passenger side. I cut it to about half it's original length to clear the passenger side pipe. All these pics are with the pipes hanging loosely since I will not tighten anything down until everything is installed.

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Rear hangers through the body behind the rear seat.
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If I have enough room once everything is installed, I will probably move the muffler hangers up to the next hole in the rubber insulators to lift the pipe about an inch more.
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View from inside so you can see where the hanger bolts end up. Gonne re-route the fuel sending unit wire and loom it up while I have the rear seatback out. Interior is due for a good cleaning!
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Just a question about your profile. It say 5.9 Magnum/904 in process. Any reason for the 904 when it came with a A-727 ?
 
I don't race my Challenger either. I can see you have a 7 1/4 " rear, a brake line looped under the driver torsion bar. What are your plans for the brakes, front end suspension ? Stock rebuild ? Or upgrade for the extra power and weight of the new driveline change ? Easier to install ? Interesting. Thank you. Nice job.
 
Front brakes and suspension components mentioned here and already done. "1965 Valiant 200" post #23

The rear end will be replaced, eventually. Haven't decided yet which rear I will replace it with. Leaning towards an 8.8 or 8.25
 
Orionsax7 said:
Front brakes and suspension components mentioned here and already done. "1965 Valiant 200" post #23

The rear end will be replaced, eventually. Haven't decided yet which rear I will replace it with. Leaning towards an 8.8 or 8.25
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the 8.8 exploder axle is an easy swap, just get an extra short side axle shaft. they're real cheap new from summit racing, it's where i got mine from as they aren't so plentiful in junkyards here in the uk.
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Long overdue update:

There were some changes along the way with the plan for the engine. In the end, I decided to go with RPM heads and intake. The first set of heads that made their way to the machine shop were not machined correctly, and were basically scrapped something was machined too deep, I don't remember exactly what because it's been months. The replacement heads were 6-9 weeks backordered so there was a lot of waiting. Finally, good heads came in and the machine shop was able to complete the build and complete the dyno.

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404 hp @ 5300rpm
430 tq @ 4500rpm
over 400 tq from 3300-5300rpm

Stock bottom end 2000 5.9 Magnum
Final compression 9.4:1
Edelbrock heads and intake
Comp Cams 20-746-9
Dur. @ 0.050 216/224
Lift .506/.506
Sep. 114

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Hope to continue putting this together in the coming months. Need a few odds and ends now(flexplate bolts, WP bolts, plug wires, exhaust bolts, serp belt, etc) Then, see what adjustments I'll have to make to fit the manifolds that I'm using(referenced in previous post in this thread).

Will still need to complete the Fitech and radiator install, along with a few more electrical circuits to complete.
 
Sad to hear about the quality of the heads. So did Edelbrock cover all costs ?
 
Progress update and photo dump!!

After some trial and error with parts, I finalized the serp belt drive. Belt is a Gates K070553
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I used a ribbed idler pulley, Gates 36222, from Oreilly. It came with a center bushing, but the interior diameter of the bushing was too big, so I used the original center bushing and it worked perfectly.
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/drivealign/gates-drivealign-belt-pulley/gate/36222
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Bypass hose is a Gates 22038 (factory hose for magnum)
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Getting ready to install the assembly. I found that, once in the air at the necessary angle, the alternator bracket was going to touch the hoist's lifting arm, so I removed the alternator and bracket as an assembly for clearance, as you can see the following picture.
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.....and in.
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I purchased the motor mount brackets from Barry Zepick almost a year ago on FB and original style 273 isolators from Ebay. Engine fits perfect with this combo and the passenger side bracket fits all three magnum block ears.
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With the hoist out of the way, I reinstalled the alternator/bracket/belt and was able to install the FiTech throttle body to begin routing the harnesses. (Ignore the isolator in this picture, it was the wrong one and used just for mockup)
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Finished cleaning up the Fitech harness and alternator harness on the passenger's side. At the time, I had not received the cluster gauges(and I didn't stop to think that I still had to add the temp sensor harness, so I will have to open up the harness on the intake again to tuck it in)
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I'm using a 22" radiator from ECP, 22″ Mopar SMALL BLOCK HD Aluminum Radiator | ECP and a fan from RockAuto. The fan is for a 2008 Chevy HHR 2.4L, More Information for TYC 621450
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I modified the fan by removing the ears off the top and bottom for a more flush fit, as well as cut off the mounting arms on the sides, as they extend passed the radiator and are not usable. I will drill small holes into the shroud and go with a pass-through method for mounting.
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At this point, I received the gauges and you can see the new coolant temp sensor harness next to the throttle body that I will incorporate into the FiTech Harness for cleanliness. I was also able to install the radiator and verified that the fan fits correctly in it's place. I will snap pics of the clearance once permanently installed. I also fully installed the throttle cable and started installing the kickdown cable. Not attached to trans yet. (Also, still have not cleaned up the driver's side harnesses yet....)
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I took advantage of Black Friday sales at Speedhut and picked up these 4.5" gauges. Combo GPS speedo/tach, and a 4 in one Fuel/Volt/Temp/Oil. I did have to enlarge the opening of the cluster bezel just a bit to fit the housing of the new gauges in, but overall they are about the same size as the originals. I'll get some more pics of the wiring and install of these as I progress. I will be painting the bezel first, though.
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Hope to finish cleaning up all the engine bay harnesses this week.
 
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nice work. re the fan mounting, could you mount to the rear radiator flange/lip either side? maybe bolt a tab at each corner to the flange and then bolt the fan to those. i've never been a fan of fixing a fan through the core, even with the sponge insulators. it inevitably chafes through the core at some point down the road which is not good.
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nice work. re the fan mounting, could you mount to the rear radiator flange/lip either side?
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Thanks!

Yea, the fan shroud is JUST large enough to reach the four small holes on the radiator rear ears so my hardware won't be passing through the radiator fins, just the ears and the shroud.

Kinda hard to explain, but I'll post more pics once mounted. I agree, not a fan of mounting through the radiator fins.
 
Thanks for posting the links for the radiator and fan! I may be a copycat and do the same thing in my 65 Barracuda! I'm looking forward to seeing how the fan mounted to the radiator. You've done a very nice job with everything, and I look forward to watching it get completed. :)
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Thanks for posting the links for the radiator and fan! I may be a copycat and do the same thing in my 65 Barracuda! I'm looking forward to seeing how the fan mounted to the radiator. You've done a very nice job with everything, and I look forward to watching it get completed. :)
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Thanks! I really want to document as much as I can. It helps me keep track of things just as nice as it may help others.

I do plan to update the top post with a parts list down the road.
 
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