1971 Challenger from OVERHAULIN' on ebay

-
Well this is the way I figure it, get rid of those ugly-assed wheels and tires and go with some nice 1 piece 5 spoke then get that crap out of the trunk and I'd give ya 40K for it. I like the power train and interior and can live with the paint job.
 
The engine does not appear to be a 318, more like a 383 big block. Look at the location of the distributor. I agree, yes, the color scheme is a lot confusing.
However, I would simply repaint it to match that new burgundy metallic color on the 2009 challengers, use genuine AAR Stripes, keep the seats and change the lime green imprint to black to match the rest of the interior. Scrap the sound system to something more simpler, with less speakers and drive it like I stole it like the movie "Vanishing Point".
 
I bet the owner decided after he got the car back that it was a mistake, probally gonna take the ebay money and by a nice resto...Ebay add said the engine was a 440. Did you guys see the picture of the car before they started on it? It looked a TON cooler before they did this hack job. I mean, look at those side stripes, it looks like something you would cut out of contact paper and stick on the side of your car in the kmart parking lot. And check out the super trick heater controll valve on the fenderwell. Dont miss the ulta high tech heater bypass system on the water pump housing too. All this and I am sure lots more you cant see, (cars ALWAYS look better in pictures than in person) and the car was "apraised" at 395K LOL what a freaking joke. The only way to make this car cool again is to get rid of all the chip fagoose crap.:wack:
 
First off, it's an e-body. ANYTHING Foose did would be an improvement. Regardless of "market worth" or popularity, e-bodies are fat, heavy, and like belly-buttons, are way too common, like Camaros and Mustangs. I'd rather own one of several brand-x cars than own an e-body.

Second, Chip Foose has done more to promote the customizing hobby than anyone in the past 20 years, as did Chuck Barris before him. Don't like customs? I TOTALLY understand that — to each his own. Me? If I never saw another restored Mopar with a set of tired-assed Cragar S/S's again, I'd go to my grave a happy man. I've seen enough cars like that for the past 30 years to last a lifetime, and if I wanna see a resto, I'll go to a car museum. I don't like every car that Foose lays his hands on (a polished turd is still a turd), but to me, it's ALWAYS been an improvement. And to me, cars are a canvas, not a temple.

MY Darts are not some automotive legacy, to be preserved for my children to see how great cars were back in the "golden age" of automotive history. MY Darts exist solely for the purpose of making ME happy. And for everyone that gets ticked off because I bolted on a set of 18" rims, or cut the door panels for speakers, or chopped the roof or whatever, there's another person who will appreciate the fact that I made my car DIFFERENT. REAL hot rodding isn't about fitting in and pleasing the crowd or the purists, it's about doing to your car what makes you happy and saying "screw you" to the critics.

This thread has been a wake up call for me. I've obviously grown in a TOTALLY different direction for most of you as far as my automotive interests are concerned. I've already stopped going to local Mopar shows because they're full of restos, which I've seen enough of (especially the SAME restos). And it's bad enough that the slanters get beat on around here all the time for not wanting to burn up the drag strip as cheaply as possible (even when they post in the slant six section). When I look at a car, I wanna see something I've never seen before, or at least something rare or unusual. If not, I wanna see what an individual did to modify his car to make it stand out from the crowd, and make it unique. Maybe I'll like what he did, maybe I won't. But I don't wanna look at another restored e-body with a big block and yawn.

And lest you think I'm some young 'un who traded in a lowered Civic for some old car sitting in a barn just to be cool, I'm a 45-year-old who's been wrenching on Mopars since I was 17. My first car was a '72 Swinger. I've owned eight Mopars since, mostly V-8's, including the Swinger and Dart convertible I own now. And THESE two ain't goin' anywhere – I'll own 'em till I die.

I've come to the conclusion that FABO is all about going fast, to the exclusion of other all other automotive interests and/or tastes. That's fine, but it ain't for me. I'm in no hurry to get anywhere anymore. I just love driving old iron. If you don't have the same automotive tastes as me, I'm fine with that, but I've never been about telling the world that this car or that builder's style sucks, or that Mopars should be built a certain way, otherwise they're some kind of "sacrilege", or that small wheels or big wheels look like crap. I think I'll look around for some good custom car forums. They've gotta be a bit more open-minded, right?
 
Vynn, I think you have been misreading the majority of the posts here. Customizing is ALWAYS personal taste. It is the taste of the builder. And that is fine with me.

Unfortunately, this PARTICULAR vehicle is not fully finished, not anywhere near the quality of many of the modified vehicles on this site, and priced like it's the best I've ever seen! For the price, when I looked at all the pictures, I should have went WOWWWW!!!! I didn't. That's what I'm saying.

Grant
 
Wow, that many of you dislike the car that much? Seriously? Guess there are a lot of purists on the boards. Let me say, anybody can restore a car to factory specs given the money - the information and the parts are there. Those cars already exist, in garages across the country. The blood sweat and tears put into them yields the EXACT same result as anybody else "restoring." For me, there is no satisfaction in that. Customizing a car takes balls. Takes vision, creativity, and the combination of skills and balls to create something that nobody else has created. And when it's done well, THAT car is something special, that will stand out in a crowd no matter how many other cars are around it.

Chip had done some nice cars, the 65 Impala, 66 Chevy II, 56 Caddy. even the 66 A-100 was pretty nice, but most of his cars are dated and like all cars done to current styling, they will do nothing but fall in value over a short time, look at all the famous pro street cars from the 80's? there practically worthless now. Look in the back of Hot Rod and Car Craft, there is at least one or two famous cars show up in the for sale section for pennies of it's original value.

I like customs and that car is no custom, street machine maybe? a bad example of one to say the least. But in no way is that car a custom.

These are customs,

P9100066-vi.jpg

P5190078copy-vi.jpg

hirohatamerc.jpg

zupanmerc.jpg
 
Second, Chip Foose has done more to promote the customizing hobby than anyone in the past 20 years, as did Chuck Barris before him.

I think you mean Sam and George Barris right? Sam was the brother that built them and George is the asshat that takes credit for all the cars that Sam and Bill Hines built. Either way you are right, there has been a very large influx of car Nazis on this site that get all butt hurt if you do something to a mopar that differs from that way it came from the factory.
I have also pretty much stopped going to Mopar only shows because they are getting to be like small block chevies at the rod runs, damn near everything has been done to them and they are getting kinda boring to look at.
Don't leave FABO all together though! This is still the best group of guys on the net, besides we have the hot mopar babes and bacon threads!!!
 
Chip had done some nice cars, the 65 Impala, 66 Chevy II, 56 Caddy. even the 66 A-100 was pretty nice, but most of his cars are dated and like all cars done to current styling, they will do nothing but fall in value over a short time, look at all the famous pro street cars from the 80's? there practically worthless now. Look in the back of Hot Rod and Car Craft, there is at least one or two famous cars show up in the for sale section for pennies of it's original value.

I like customs and that car is no custom, street machine maybe? a bad example of one to say the least. But in no way is that car a custom.

These are customs,

P9100066-vi.jpg

P5190078copy-vi.jpg

hirohatamerc.jpg

zupanmerc.jpg
Those are DIFFERENT KINDS of customs. Foose's are more subtle, but spending a day or two chopping and channeling a stock bumper so it tucks in is custom work to me, even if 99% of the viewers don't notice. Foose's cars are FULL of that kind of work. And to do it in a week, even with a huge staff? It's still impressive. And the cars he's done for shows, REAL hot rods? Incredible.
 
I will give Chip some credit for building some SOME nice cars but that airplane looking 32 roadster is a buttf**king ugly car!
 
This may sound a little nitpicky to most of you, but all that work and the e-brake isn't even hooked up?

That's quality? No detail overlooked?

So, in order to build a car and put your name on it, you give it a fancy paint job, throw on a set of wheels, then make it so it won't even pass most state inspections?
 

I think you mean Sam and George Barris right? Sam was the brother that built them and George is the asshat that takes credit for all the cars that Sam and Bill Hines built. Either way you are right, there has been a very large influx of car Nazis on this site that get all butt hurt if you do something to a mopar that differs from that way it came from the factory.
I have also pretty much stopped going to Mopar only shows because they are getting to be like small block chevies at the rod runs, damn near everything has been done to them and they are getting kinda boring to look at.
Don't leave FABO all together though! This is still the best group of guys on the net, besides we have the hot mopar babes and bacon threads!!!

My uncle knows him personally and lets just say that is a popular assessment of the man, he is a great promoter though but a car builder he isn't. My uncle owns the Sonzogni Merc and it is considered a Barris car but George never touched the car or designed anything on it, Sonzogni built it while working in the Barris shop with some help from Sam Barris and Bob Hirahota. I don't think George put any input into the customs till the 60's when he started to design cars for the movies, and then he was still only a designer.


Nothing wrong with modifications as long as they are done tastefully, the problem is you don't usually find two people that agree on what is tastefull.





LOL, I'm actually wearing my Billitproof "**** Trailer Queens" shirt right now. :-D


That's funny! I want one but I would probably look like a hypocrite though since I have to trailer the Fish to shows that are more than 15-20 miles away or if I have to take it on the hwy.
 
As someone obsessed with details...the nsaty rusty license plate screw drives me nuts! A small detail...and easily fixed...but on a car appraised at almost $300,000? Now I'm no E-Body expert but I see an A/C control, but no dash vents. I also notice incorrect VIN tag rivits...not t mention no "Chrysler Corp" on the tag. And what the heck is under the door striking in the passenger door jamb?

The huge wheel thing doesn't work for me either, but nor does the paint scheme, or the goofy "racer" interior. I liked the car better before.
 
Wow, what a bunch of haters! (not all of you)

Anyways, I don't care for everything Foose does, like the wheels, etc.., I'm into pizza cutters up front, and big fatties out back. But I can appreciate all the work that has been done on the car.

I have personally met, and talked with Foose, he even gave me some pointers on restoring cars. He is very down to earth, and very talented.

And best of all, I like the fact that he gets his hands dirty still, he could just sit back and let everyone else do the work, but he chooses not to. Thats what I like about him.
 
The show is horrible. Have you noticed Chip sits down with the family of the car owner and acts very interested in knowing what the owner likes, dislikes, colors, styles, etc. then builds what he wants anyway. "You guys go completly destroy this car, and im gonna go draw some pretty pictures of what i want it to look like" Its awful.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971...ewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ced7d502e

For all the talk that the car was going to be in the family, forever it sure makes me wonder what is forcing the sale? I would think that it would be more successful if he laid it out on the line as to why....

Hey Back to basics,
I remembered your thread. Down here in the burg in TN (Cheap quick get away) with ABB. Hot afternoon here, she's sleeping with headache and I'm watching a net work called speed (I love it but never saw it back home in Aurora IN.)
Anyway they had a Barett Jackson auction on right now and this car sold for $315K and Foose was there, at the auction, on the podium with the auctioneers!!!

$315K would cure a world-O-Hurt!!!
I would love to have 10% of that right now!!!8)
 
Sorry for anyone that HAS TO SELL a prized possession

Most the Cars he has done, especially the mopars, I don't care for. The Challenger graphics just don't cut it. The big billet wheels, SUCK, crappy looking interior.

And what is it, they don't hardly ever put outside rear veiw mirrors on?

How much detail can be done in a week? i proabably spent more time than that in the engine compartment to get the look I wanted. Yeah it was just me, but how many man hours do they actually use, and it is really a week? It IS TV.

The Roadrunner convertible, would have liked it better just the way it was than after.

Some of the cars do come out nice looking and he does build some like the owners want. Some tell them to do whatever.

I could NEVER let someone build my car that way. I had an Idea and went for that. Changed things when I didn't like it, try that with a foosemobile.

I found a guy that can draw cars as good as Chip and he will be drawing what my next car will look like. It will be simple, just like the one dad wouldn't let me have. White 69 GTS with white interior and red stripe. I keep day dreaming about it all the time.

I did ride in the clone GTX that was done by Barry White, even that needed some changes
 
stumbled on this thread after seeing that episode on netflix. couple of thoughts. hope selling that car helps whatever issue they had, it sucks to do it no matter the reason. a divorce made me loose a couple of cars and a harley. a divorce i filled for and still got screwed.

for a one week job the quality on these overhaulin cars aren't bad. would be better if they didn't waste time on some of the crap that will be dated just a few years later. that's the problem with custom paint and body work. most of it does not stand the test of time. the Scott Sullivan Nova is an example of one that does. or the old school sleds like someone else posted.

i hate big wheels just for the look. if you want to road race or autocross, fine. even then there is a limit to what is really useful. anything beyond 17-18'' is a waste and wierd looking on our old cars.

i've had 2 drag cars, my old 71 duster and a 68 chevelle. i love the look of a 1/4 mile car and blasting down the track but i'm planning to build my 74 duster to have fun on a road course this time. what would an A-body look like in Trans Am is what i'm looking for. been practicing at spring mt raceway in pahrump, nv in a buddy's 89 5.0 stang. it may be a furd but it is a blast to drive on that track.
 
Seems, if I can recall that car was for sale once before.
 
-
Back
Top Bottom