63 Dodge Dart, now let me see;)

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Got company coming over for the weekend, Oldest daughter b-day(pool party), a Taiwan foreign exchange student(17 cute as she can be, she's getting a kick out of the classic cars)), Just need another couple hours to make really nice.
Won't get anything done this weekend:(

I'm sitting in one of my Miata seat;)
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Dne007 said:
You know at one time, I was thinking to black out the engine compartment until I was "caught", ok ok, but this really doesn't take away from the engine compartment. I still need to redo the air cleaner, it has a bunch of pits from rust, so I was thinking it might look better a mattish or semi gloss black. Black just goes so well with the Sage green.

but the front area being a matt black looks just fine, I could have gone either way.

Back to the air cleaner box~ Black would definitely look better with that blue Super six decal.
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I haven't looked at your build lately. I like the green air cleaner. I'm trying to picture the nice smooth black brake booster, smooth valve cover rather than crinkle and the black air cleaner. It's a tough call. I love the crinkle on the commando 273 covers...but yours is a different animal. I would at least mockup the black with your spare air cleaner and unless your heart is set on it... throw that black hose aside.
 
Dne007 said:
Got company coming over for the weekend, Oldest daughter b-day(pool party), a Taiwan foreign exchange student(17 cute as she can be, she's getting a kick out of the classic cars)), Just need another couple hours to make really nice.
Won't get anything done this weekend:(

I'm sitting in one of my Miata seat;)
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Thanks for all you do.

Always Enjoy...


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Coming along nicely , where is your battery going ? Or did I miss that ?

I would love to put mine in the trunk , it would open up that area and make it easier to check the P/S fluid and it would be a great place for relays . Right now I can almost get my hand in there to check .

Years ago I put a welding cable under the carpet all the way to the trunk in anticipation of putting the battery in the trunk . So I think when I put in the new carpet ,counsel and seats this will be the time to make it happen .

Have FUN with the Kids !
 
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Hey;) I'm so glad everyone went home from the weekend~ I love em all, but you know.

My last AC fitting finally got here~ so installed, pulled a vacuum, after about 10 minutes lost a few points, I did lube each o-ring. Tomorrow I may just put a small charge and see if there is a leak, my machine needs at least 2 hours warm up time to heat the tank for an immediate charge, even a small charge, don't have to run the engine. I admit there are a lot of fittings that could be problematic. I hope tomorrow to be a good day :thumbsup:

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Dne007 said:
Hey;) I'm so glad everyone went home from the weekend~ I love em all, but you know.

My last AC fitting finally got here~ so installed, pulled a vacuum, after about 10 minutes lost a few points, I did lube each o-ring. Tomorrow I may just put a small charge and see if there is a leak, my machine needs at least 2 hours warm up time to heat the tank for an immediate charge, even a small charge, don't have to run the engine. I admit there are a lot of fittings that could be problematic. I hope tomorrow to be a good day :thumbsup:

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P.S. hope it holds a charge :)
 
Dne007 said:
Hey;) I'm so glad everyone went home from the weekend~ I love em all, but you know.

My last AC fitting finally got here~ so installed, pulled a vacuum, after about 10 minutes lost a few points, I did lube each o-ring. Tomorrow I may just put a small charge and see if there is a leak, my machine needs at least 2 hours warm up time to heat the tank for an immediate charge, even a small charge, don't have to run the engine. I admit there are a lot of fittings that could be problematic. I hope tomorrow to be a good day :thumbsup:

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Like plumbing a sink drain, that water will leak out of just about anywhere.

Got enough refrigerant oil in it to help lube all the O-rings?

I usually pull a vacuum for 30 minutes, let it set closed up for 30 minutes (hopefully it doesn't loose vacuum). Then I shoot in a can of R134 freon and run that through the system, then pull that back out again. Finally pull another 30 minute vacuum and then see if that holds.

Doing it out in the hot sun with the hood open may help to soften things up and seal better.

Receiver/Dryer, what's going on with that? (hope it's not made in china)... Chy-Na...


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Gee George, I think it's the same dryer I have on my Bronco. I feel I've gotten pretty good at AC installations~ it's just part of troubleshooting I feel, probably missed something during the install, crimping, etc. I'll figure it out;) But I appreciate your advice and experience :thankyou::thankyou:
 
Just checking, did you install the O-rings dry? A little vaseline or refrigerant oil helps them seal at time of assembly.

Polishing up all the inners and outters of the freon line couplings, with a red scotch brite leaves a smooth surface to seal to.


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The first car I drove solo was a 63 Dart when I was 13...../6 3 on the tree and used it (stole it) to go mow yards. Dad knew as I used it several times but only in the neighborhood lol. Mom used to let me shift the 51 'Crapbrook' Plymouth at a very young age so I knew the pattern....just never experienced the clutch. Easy peasy....anyways, own a 64 that's nearly a twin to the 63. Love your build btw!
 
Oh yes, refrigerant oil on the o-rings , I bet it will be one of the crimps. I will find it and destroy it :lol:


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Just checking, did you install the O-rings dry? A little vaseline or refrigerant oil helps them seal at time of assembly.

Polishing up all the inners and outters of the freon line couplings, with a red scotch brite leaves a smooth surface to seal to.


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Dne007 said:
Oh yes, refrigerant oil on the o-rings , I bet it will be one of the crimps. I will find it and destroy it :lol:
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You know I had one of my good mechanic friends plumb in the new AC lines (on a '77 Corvette) that he made up for me at the shop.

I was kind of surprised that he used 3M yellow Weather Stripping Adhesive to act as a sealer between the new AC hard line and the slip on rubber AC hose before he crimped them with his special tool.

Apparently he had them leak before.

Think contact cement from the hardware store is the same base adhesive as the 3M yellow....


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This has always crossed my mind about sealing the hose to the hard line~ why not? If it's really leaking all one can do is re-crimp, otherwise is trash! lol I've just never done it

George Jets said:
You know I had one of my good mechanic friends plumb in the new AC lines (on a '77 Corvette) that he made up for me at the shop.

I was kind of surprised that he used 3M yellow Weather Stripping Adhesive to act as a sealer between the new AC hard line and the slip on rubber AC hose before he crimped them with his special tool.

Apparently he had them leak before.

Think contact cement from the hardware store is the same base adhesive as the 3M yellow....


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don't forget the compressor has no conventional seals as such. the refrigeration guy dad used for many years on his lorries told me they use almost the same as piston rings and the oil flowing round the system holds the seal on the rings. he told us to switch on the ac in our cars at least once a month even in winter to maintain that seal or those rings could dry enough to leak. could it be your pressure loss is due to lack of lube there because the compressor needs oil flowing to seal the system?
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It's awesome you guys know how to do AC stuff... i understand how it works but never actually made one work. Especially making hoses and stuff (that comes from being too cheap to buy proper tools though) :)
 

I've learned a great deal over time, just requires research, and there are so many videos on HOW TOs too. I bought my AC machine a long time ago, didn't want to be having have some place charge my systems or be dependent on local shops. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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It's awesome you guys know how to do AC stuff... i understand how it works but never actually made one work. Especially making hoses and stuff (that comes from being too cheap to buy proper tools though) :)
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lol, it's not black magic silly;) Of all the classics I've "Restored", there is just about always troubleshooting and fixing the problem is a reward in itself. On my '72 Bronco, it held a vacuum for an hour, when charging it, one short hose started hissing 134, pulled the hose, recrimped and that solved the leak~ hooray, here I am again. Just because it may hold vacuum doesn't mean it may hold pressure which is logical. I just always fear a defective evaporator core.

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AC is black magic

P.S. hope it holds a charge :)
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