67 Dart tubular upper control arms

[jimmyjames]

i recently bought a 67 Dart with tubular upper control arms don’t know what brand but they need new ball joints is it a easy fix or not ? how do i replace them ?

 

[jimmyjames]

i recently bought a 67 Dart with tubular upper control arms don’t know what brand but they need new ball joints is it a easy fix or not ? how do i replace them ?

PM me your reply THX

 

[Mtrhead]

Use a ball joint four cornered socket

 

[jimmyjames]

Use a ball joint four cornered socket

do the ball joints have to be from a tubular control arm or regular control arm ?

 

[Mtrhead]

I'm pretty sure it accepts the big ball joint 73 through 76 Style

 

[jimmyjames]

i will have to try and measure what size i need

 

[72bluNblu]

A picture of the arms would be pretty helpful. But almost all of the tubular arms for these cars come with either the standard small or large factory ball joints. And installation/removal is the same as factory.

The SPC genII UCA’s are the only ones I’m aware of that use a non-factory ball joint.

 

[jimmyjames]

A picture of the arms would be pretty helpful. But almost all of the tubular arms for these cars come with either the standard small or large factory ball joints. And installation/removal is the same as factory.

The SPC genII UCA’s are the only ones I’m aware of that use a non-factory ball joint.

 

[jimmyjames]

ok on a 67 Dart do the ball joints screw in ? i have owned quite a few 64 Plymouth B-Bodies and they screw in

 

[72bluNblu]

Yes, the factory ball joints screw in. But a ‘67 would have small upper ball joints from the factory, and most of the tubular UCA’s use the later large upper ball joints. But some are available with the small ball joints, so your current ones could be either size depending on what tubular UCA’s you have.

 

[Demonracer]

Posting pictures will help members possibly determine what you have.

 

[jimmyjames]

if it matters the 1.92 is the diameter of the screw in ball joint

 

[Demonracer]

There are 2 sockets made for Mopar ball joints, one for the small ball joint and one for the large ball joint. I've found that in the tubular upper arms they are much easier to replace than in the OEM arms.

 

[jimmyjames]

so what size socket would it take for removal ? the size is in one of the pics

 

[jimmyjames]

this picture is of the top of the tubular upper control arm

 

[Demonracer]

Yours looks like the small socket, but I'm not sure. Look at "ARES 12111" socket set, it has both sockets and an adapter to go from 3/4 drive to 1/2 drive.

 

[jimmyjames]

okay i will check it out

 

[S'cuder]

This is the 1973 and later ball joint. It seems close to yours.

See this thread for measurements on the earlier, smaller ball joints.
1970 upper ball joint socket

 

[jimmyjames]

i will go to a parts store and see THX

 

[S'cuder]

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[jimmyjames]

i measured my 64 Plymouth sport fury and it’s 2.11 diameter and my 67 Dart is 1.91 diameter

 

[S'cuder]

Both the 1964 Fury and 1973 Duster call for 2298534 for the upper ball joint. Same for the Moog PN K772. What matters, among other things, is the diameter of the threaded section of the body, not the size of the socket (pipe wrench) needed to remove it.

Get one of the ball joints out, and measure the diameter of the threaded section. Just ask, I'll be happy to provide any measurements from a NORS Moog K772 you'd like. Check to be sure there aren't any welds securing the ball joint to the control arm before you start reefing on it.

 

[jimmyjames]

i will take one off this week and i will get back to you THX

 

[toolmanmike]

The old MAC Tools number is SC29. 1 29/32"

 

[S'cuder]

The old MAC Tools number is SC29. 1 29/32"

Thank you, Mike.
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