72 360, cam/lifter failure, replacements?

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Hi Junkyard,

Well, I was fairly certain I had a reason but I very recently informed in an abrupt manner that zinc was not the reason despite the only change was using a different brand of oil. I went and checked other conversations about zinc in oil and see other people reference it for parts failures. I guess I am not allowed to have that reason ;)

I have not torn down the engine. I only got as far as removing the valve covers to observe the rocker arms. I had oil pressure and had not done anything else to this engine in over a year except my regularly scheduled archaic 1880’s oil changes prior to this so I do not have much to go on. I had several plans fall through on rebuilding an engine or doing an engine swap. I kind of need to get it moving so I can address more pressing problems. I don’t want to just throw a cam in and repeat the problem but every avenue I have tried to take has closed.

The cam(s) you mention. Would they be ok for a heavy tow vehicle like a van?

Thanks for taking the time to read and reply with help and advice. It is appreciated.

Mike
sometimes that's just the way it is around here, threads get hijacked and topics get stepped on.

#1 what *specifically* is the set up currently? 2bbl, 4bbl, intake, exhaust, year of the motor, has it been rebuilt, points or electronic ignition.

that way we'll at least know where you're starting from.

#2 you have to do a comprehensive tear down. stuff doesn't just quit working without reason. while the oil thing may have been a contributing factory, i sincerely doubt it's the only factor. this will also allow you to ascertain the usability of the other parts you've got.

the cams i mentioned are commonly referred to as "RV cams" and they are suitable for what you're trying to do. with the right supporting cast rounding it out you can have a motor that's quite decent.
 
My engine died.
I need a cam and lifters.

I have noticed almost everyone over the last several years discussing lifter problems and camshaft problems with things built in the last x amount of years.

Is Oregon Cams the go to solution for replacement or mild power/torque cams?
Johnson Lifters or?

This is a heavy B100 with a big camper bubble top like the ice cream man uses to sell ice cream. I just need it running again but don't want to do this more than once.

Advice about cams and lifters appreciated. I don’t need personal opinions about engine oil or what ******* decade it is.

Mike
Johnson Lifters makes roller lifters only.
 
I just spent a couple hours in an archaeological dig in the garage looking for car parts. There was a time I was planning to rebuild the 360 LA before I switched plans to swap a 5.9 magnum. All those parts mixed with Slant six turbo parts, and 5.7 hemi parts. I am doing an inventory and rediscovering parts I forgot about. Over the last 3 1/2 years I had kidney failure and another kidney transplant. My mind was occupied just trying to stay alive and keep my job and I forgot a lot of stuff. That combined with the great hemi car parts theft that happened before I became ill. I lost all my 5.7 hemi parts including computer and harness, the only thing they did not take was the 5.7 engine. Near as I can tell they did not touch any LA/Magnum parts, even shiny stuff like intake manifolds.

JunkYardHero, as for what type of setup, it was a bone stock 72 360 that I swapped a four barrel dual plane intake (Edelbrock RPM if memory serves) with a 600 cfm vac secondary carb. it ran really well. I ran it for over a year with that combo before the flat cam/lifter fiasco. I run an HEI distributor and it has worked flawlessly. Stock exhaust manifolds into a single pipe. I have headers for it that never made it on before this all happened. I was collecting parts for dual pipes but again did not get that far. This was my daily driver for part of Covid. Prior to swapping the intake manifold I drove it for a couple years for Wrecking yard trips, parts running, and camping trips.

JunkYardHero, I agree, time to do a tear down. Since, the magnum swap has fallen by the wayside and I have much of my health back it is time to start tearing into it. Tomorrow I will either start tearing it down or dig further into the garage car parts mess. Maybe both!

Mopar Head I scored a set of used EQ heads (I think they are the good ones) when I bought a used 5.9 magnum from a wrecking yard. Unfortunately the heads were the only good things on that engine. These may be a swap option. I do have a magnum edelbrock dual plane 4bbl intake I can use. This could save some money on valve seats and valve job.

Thank you for your advice and reading this JunkYardHero, Scody 21, BodyPerson, Mopar Head, Fishmens67, StreetSleeper, aBodyJoe, Mopar Official, and Ken Dog 170.

Mike
 
Then dont watch. It makes zero difference to me.
The point of being in a community is to cooperate for the greater good.

If you **** on people when you disagree with people it illustrates a supplement for a lack of self confidence.

Your behavior appears to project self confidence yet everyone else knows most men could care less what others think of them.
No one is going to take you seriously because you can’t take others serious.

It’s not the end of the world if someone disagrees with you.
Like you said, it doesn’t matter. But it seems to matter to you because you continuously LASHOUT like a child.<-not taken serious because of that.
You can spit out the most profound facts of the universe and no one will ask you to expound on them because you will just lash out with bad attitude.

FABO members are not your enemy.

People that disagree with you are not reducing your status, or disrespecting you.

If you you were truly passionate to defeat ignorance, start with your bad attitude.

People would be more engaging with you if you were less hostile.
 
The point of being in a community is to cooperate for the greater good.

If you **** on people when you disagree with people it illustrates a supplement for a lack of self confidence.

Your behavior appears to project self confidence yet everyone else knows most men could care less what others think of them.
No one is going to take you seriously because you can’t take others serious.

It’s not the end of the world if someone disagrees with you.
Like you said, it doesn’t matter. But it seems to matter to you because you continuously LASHOUT like a child.<-not taken serious because of that.
You can spit out the most profound facts of the universe and no one will ask you to expound on them because you will just lash out with bad attitude.

FABO members are not your enemy.

People that disagree with you are not reducing your status, or disrespecting you.

If you you were truly passionate to defeat ignorance, start with your bad attitude.

People would be more engaging with you if you were less hostile.
Kinda what I said to him before he was blocked. What makes this forum great is the wealth of wisdom from so many.
 
The point of being in a community is to cooperate for the greater good.

If you **** on people when you disagree with people it illustrates a supplement for a lack of self confidence.

Your behavior appears to project self confidence yet everyone else knows most men could care less what others think of them.
No one is going to take you seriously because you can’t take others serious.

It’s not the end of the world if someone disagrees with you.
Like you said, it doesn’t matter. But it seems to matter to you because you continuously LASHOUT like a child.<-not taken serious because of that.
You can spit out the most profound facts of the universe and no one will ask you to expound on them because you will just lash out with bad attitude.

FABO members are not your enemy.

People that disagree with you are not reducing your status, or disrespecting you.

If you you were truly passionate to defeat ignorance, start with your bad attitude.

People would be more engaging with you if you were less hostile.


Well boohoo.

You can disagree with me all you want. What pisses me off is when I post indisputable FACTS and someone comes along with their “I’ve done it this way for years and it’s worked for me” nonsense.

You can go through my post line by line and research it for yourself.

You want to mix oils? Go right ahead. It just shows your total ignorance of lubrication and what it takes to build an oil and what happens when you start mixing ****.

Do you know that too much zinc affects other additive packages in the oil? If you did you wouldn’t mix oils or use additives in any oil, and you damn sure wouldn’t come on here and brag about it

Did you know that mixing two different oils with different detergent packages can make the zinc package ineffective? Yes, it can happen and it does and if you aren’t doing used oil analysis you have no clue what you are doing.

If I hurt your feelings by telling the OP he is ******* up doing exactly what he said he was doing (without any issues according to him) and that he needed to stop doing it (which of course he won’t and it’s funny he edited his post isn’t it so no one can go back and read what he wrote) then too bad.

I take this very seriously. I’ve seen the destruction when guys start mixing oils or use some additive thinking they can make a **** oil better and outthink the guy who built the oil in the first place. As an engine builder the ignorance on oil is appalling.

And guys like YOU contribute to the ignorance. Like I said, you can do your own research and find out if I’m wrong or lying or whatever but you don’t. You just snivel because I don’t hold the hands and wipe the butts of full grown men.

Like everyone else, I post on here for FREE. I have PAID for my education and yet I give away my hard earned knowledge for FREE and you complain I didn’t say it nice enough.

Get real.

So keep buying cheap oil. I don’t care. Keep mixing oil. I don’t care.

Hell, if you want to mix diesel oil with automotive oil by all means, do it. It’s your investment and how you treat you investment is your business.

I said the straight truth. I don’t sugar coat it for full grown men.

I suggest you prove me wrong.

BTW, it doesn’t matter how nice I say something. Want proof?

I’ve made many videos of ignition boxes retarding and explained why they retard and yet people argue with the results.

I lay out the clear FACTS about locked out or timing all in below peak torque and how it kills power but you still have professional arguers who will dispute the FACTS.

And what do they say? I’ve always done it that way and it works for me. They have never tested anything else, but they know it works.

The truth is there are no kids on here. This isn’t Romper Room, although **** like this makes me think it is.
 

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