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I thought I had it under control, but I guess I don't.

Last night was over the edge. I imagined hurting someone I love and then hurting myself. I came close to admitting myself to the local BSU, but decided that I couldn't take the week or so vacation. Instead I'll be making some phone calls for psychologists on Monday.

Okay, guys, here goes. Most of you don't know this, but I'm getting remarried. And in September we're having a little boy. We've already named him Cyrus, after my grandfather. I'm happy. Most of the time. But angry, all the time.

I left my last job when I caught myself climbing off the ladder as I was installing a return air duct on the train we were building to toss a co-worker off the mezzanine. My blood would start boiling about half way to work, boil over for the next eight to ten hours and then it would take me forever to calm down once I got home.

Nothing seems to be adding up. I've bought a home, I'm doing little remodels as we go, and I'm focused on being a good husband (again) and a good father. I've got a second chance at life and am truly looking forward to watching Cyrus grow up and spending the rest of my life with Karli. At the same, though, I know I'm still grieving for my first family.

But somewhere, deep down inside, it feels like I have no purpose. It feels like I'm spinning my wheels and going nowhere.

Over the past twenty five years I've been professionally paid to do everything to a car except drive 'em and sell 'em. And my body has paid the price. Limping along on a bad elbow, two bad knees, now my shoulders are giving me issues. I've got a lot of knowledge rolling around in my head, but a body that's giving up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I'm just saying as a matter of fact. I still get up every morning and do what I have to do. I just grit my teeth and go through the aches and pains. It's gotta get done. I'm just not really wanting to get back into the mechanical aspect of things. I don't want Cyrus to be pushing me in a wheelchair when I go to watch him graduate.

After owning two shops I've applied for managerial positions, but like a lot of corporate things out there the ads are either fishing for job talent or just delaying things. My last interview was over a month ago, assistant manager at the Advance I used to do business with. I've yet to get the call for the third interview in the process as corporate decides that one or two candidates aren't enough. So I'm waiting for someone else to apply to be able to get the final interview.

In the meantime, I'm watching the money dwindle and the only thing I've got to fall back on is an already overcrowded job market for techs and body men. There's no doubt I could get back into it and may need to. One more sacrifice in a long line of sacrifices. No big deal.

Those thirty days at Sarah's side in Strong Memorial, minute by minute life or death decisions, seemed to stretch out for years. While for everyone else it seemed that time went by fast, for me it seemed like time slowed down. I've been told I'm full of **** for thinking like that. The past two years seems to be full of judgements by people I trusted the most. I'm tired of being judged by people who think the world runs only the way they think and by their perspective.

It's been a while since I've said anything like this on here. It helps to get some of it off my chest, but really, it's time to seek outside help.
 
First, congratulations on your new family!

I can sympathize about spinnin wheels, believe me. Nothing sucks more than looking into your past remembering all the things you used to could do and no longer can. Going from breadwinner to house husband. Overnight. I truly hope you get the help you need. I don't know a lot about psych stuff, but I know enough to know if you are angry like that, something isn't right in your life. You just need to figure out what it is. Kitty has anger issues like that, but luckily, we know what the issue is and we are getting her help. If you need to talk.....you know where my PM box is.

Praying for you.
 
You need someone to carry your "cross" for you. The only one that will fully understand is Jesus, he had help carrying his cross also. I suggest you find a church that believes in a "changed" lifestyle, a lifestyle that regenerates or renews from the inside out. It should be an experience, not a social gathering. I suggest if you don't find the help you need, you may end up in prison, or the grave....
 
First, congrats to Karli and you!

Well, Robert, it seems you've already tackled and beaten half of your issue. You;ve recognized that there is a problem, admitted it, and know that it's time to seek PROFESSIONAL help. That's great!

As you know, stress can cause a lot of psychosomatic physical issues, and before you start running to the MD to get your body fixed, I recommend you see the psychologist first. Once you get your mental anguish under control, you might find that some of your physical issues were not what you thought. Then you'll be in better condition to get those taken care of.

Remember, you have Karli, and son a son to love, care for, and support. You also have friends who don't mind listening. I'm no shrink, but you've got my phone number, and I'm willing to listen any time you feel the need. Sometimes friendly advise is all you need to get you thinking on the right track again, and Y\you also know that I'll tell you if I think you're wrong. Sometimes tough love, sometimes just venting, and sometime another opinion is what's needed.

I'm here, man. I don't always carry my phone with me, but I check it every hour or so.
 
I thought I had it under control, but I guess I don't.

Last night was over the edge. I imagined hurting someone I love and then hurting myself. I came close to admitting myself to the local BSU, but decided that I couldn't take the week or so vacation. Instead I'll be making some phone calls for psychologists on Monday.

Okay, guys, here goes. Most of you don't know this, but I'm getting remarried. And in September we're having a little boy. We've already named him Cyrus, after my grandfather. I'm happy. Most of the time. But angry, all the time.

I know I'm still grieving for my first family.
I've yet to get the call for the
third interview in the process as corporate decides that one or two candidates aren't enough. So I'm waiting for someone else to apply to be able to get the final interview.

Do you know this as a fact or is it really an assumption you are making?

I'm tired of being judged by people who think the world runs only the way they think and by their perspective.

Robert, prayers sent that you will find the right professional asap to help you through this. That much anger is dangerous in many ways. From what I know, you have not gone completely through the grieving process. Many times especially men, used to fixing mechanical things, think "I've got this." But if one "part" of the grieving process is not completely "gone through," you're not completely sound to go on with life. Somewhere along the process you suppressed something and it's coming back up. A professional will help you for sure.

As for the judgment of others, there's no way they'll ever see your perspective, because it's something only you and Sarah knew, no one else could know or will ever know. Let them judge as they will, and you be at peace with what you know.
 
As for the judgment of others, there's no way they'll ever see your perspective, because it's something only you and Sarah knew, no one else could know or will ever know.

Agreed, even if they have been through something similar. Everybody handles/experiences things differently.
 
As for the judgment of others, there's no way they'll ever see your perspective,

Agreed, even if they have been through something similar. Everybody handles/experiences things differently.

Could not agree more...but be prepared for it anyway as there are a CRAP load of folks that will judge you. I have ran into it several times on here alone, which is why I watch what I say now.

You mentioned seeking help, at least I think you did...bit of advice form someone who has been dealing with this for 30+ years....and being "treated" for it for close to 20 of them. Be yourself around potential docs. Just because they have a degree does not mean they know how to handle YOU and your problems. I had one head doc in AZ that had a panic button in her office and if I got even the least bit agitated she would notify the local cops....who would be waiting for me when I left. You feel like pacing the floor, fists clenched screaming than do so. Only way a head doc can help YOU is to see YOU.

I was under the belief for years that one was either born "mentally busted" or not "mentally busted". Head doc I am seeing now is of the belief that is not true....that a traumatic experience can trigger a mental ailment. Sarah's passing could very well have been a trigger. My dad having 5 strokes is what triggered mine. It took many years before I came to grips with things. Most folks that see me think there is nothing wrong with me. After living with this crap for this long one had to be good at "putting on a face", hiding it, in order to have any semblance of a life. I had a major melt down just a week or two ago. Before the "righteous crew" judges me I ask that they keep there perspective of my behavior to themselves. I was on the bike in town. Mindless cage driver pulled right into me, forcing me to "lane split" to avoid getting killed. That is all I remember. The following came from a man that approached me in a parking lot top see if I needed help. Apparently I shouted at the mindless cage driver. Mindless cage driver responded by flipping me off. My response to him was to get off the bike at a light and get into a shouting match with him....which lead me to slugging him with my forearm, busting his nose. Don't remember a second of it...after him threatening my life with his 4500 pound weapon. But this fellows explanation of it would explain why there was blood on my jacket and my forearm hurt like hell.

So Robert, be prepared to be judged. It is a fact of life when you are "chemically imbalanced" as I call it. Especially if someone ever pushes you to the point of a melt down. I keep telling Ernie's quilting buddy that my gates keep me sane...she laughs but I know she has no idea what I am talking about. Robert, if you EVER need to chat PLEASE call me. I will email you my number when I get done with a few things that need tending to.

Robert, you are not alone. Important thing to remember here is perspective. The "righteous crew" will pass judgement on folks for acting out of rage....be interesting to see how they would react if, say someone were to point a loaded firearm at them. Sure they will say that would not act in a hostile way....

Which leads me to this.....who in the f&*k is anybody to judge anybody? I am far from religious but I have always been under the assumption that the only person/being capable of being judgmental is what/whoever you view as your "higher power". But that is a whole different argument...
 
Well, I could come up with a bunch of platitudes that you probably already know.
About the set of the sails.
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery.......
Don't take life too seriously, it's only a temporary situation.
When upon life's billows..............
We don't know what the future holds........
Walk a mile.......
Etc.

So my only worthwhile comment is for best wishes.
And as you select professional help, remember how many psychiatrist does is take to change a light bulb?
Just one, but the bulb has to want to change.
Oh, and do you have a dog? If not maybe that would help.
Just a thought.
 

I thought I had it under control, but I guess I don't.

Last night was over the edge. I imagined hurting someone I love and then hurting myself. I came close to admitting myself to the local BSU, but decided that I couldn't take the week or so vacation. Instead I'll be making some phone calls for psychologists on Monday.

Okay, guys, here goes. Most of you don't know this, but I'm getting remarried. And in September we're having a little boy. Congrats on both We've already named him Cyrus, after my grandfather. I'm happy. Most of the time. But angry, all the time.

I left my last job when I caught myself climbing off the ladder as I was installing a return air duct on the train we were building to toss a co-worker off the mezzanine. My blood would start boiling about half way to work, boil over for the next eight to ten hours and then it would take me forever to calm down once I got home.

Nothing seems to be adding up. I've bought a home, I'm doing little remodels as we go, and I'm focused on being a good husband (again) and a good father. I've got a second chance at life and am truly looking forward to watching Cyrus grow up and spending the rest of my life with Karli. At the same, though, I know I'm still grieving for my first family. Grieving will get easier but never go away.

But somewhere, deep down inside, it feels like I have no purpose. It feels like I'm spinning my wheels and going nowhere.

Over the past twenty five years I've been professionally paid to do everything to a car except drive 'em and sell 'em. And my body has paid the price. Limping along on a bad elbow, two bad knees, now my shoulders are giving me issues. I've got a lot of knowledge rolling around in my head, but a body that's giving up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I'm just saying as a matter of fact. I still get up every morning and do what I have to do. I just grit my teeth and go through the aches and pains. It's gotta get done. I'm just not really wanting to get back into the mechanical aspect of things. I don't want Cyrus to be pushing me in a wheelchair when I go to watch him graduate.

After owning two shops I've applied for managerial positions, but like a lot of corporate things out there the ads are either fishing for job talent or just delaying things. My last interview was over a month ago, assistant manager at the Advance I used to do business with. I've yet to get the call for the third interview in the process as corporate decides that one or two candidates aren't enough. So I'm waiting for someone else to apply to be able to get the final interview.

In the meantime, I'm watching the money dwindle and the only thing I've got to fall back on is an already overcrowded job market for techs and body men. There's no doubt I could get back into it and may need to. One more sacrifice in a long line of sacrifices. No big deal.

Those thirty days at Sarah's side in Strong Memorial, minute by minute life or death decisions, seemed to stretch out for years. While for everyone else it seemed that time went by fast, for me it seemed like time slowed down. It does while you are going through it. I've been told I'm full of **** for thinking like that.Never accept this The past two years seems to be full of judgements by people I trusted the most. I'm tired of being judged by people who think the world runs only the way they think and by their perspective.

It's been a while since I've said anything like this on here. It helps to get some of it off my chest, but really, it's time to seek outside help.




Been there, done that. Not exactly but close enough to empathize. I had a minor meltdown just a couple of days ago, (see "I'm depressed" thread) NO ONE knows just how you feel, NO ONE knows what will help, NO ONE can tell you what to feel! However there are those who can relate because of similar circumstances, I did not watch my wife die but I did watch my marriage die, I will talk any time you want, pm me and I'll give you my phone number, my phone is always in arms reach. I do not promise answers but I do promise a listening ear.
 
I wish you the very best. Keep at it. Some of us have "been there."
 
Congrats Robert on the new changes, also will send prayers to help you through the tough times
 
Okay, guys, here goes. Most of you don't know this, but I'm getting remarried. And in September we're having a little boy. We've already named him Cyrus, after my grandfather. I'm happy. Most of the time. But angry, all the time.

I don't know what to say about the angry part because I cant say I have ever really been angry........

but from my point of view I think you should be very happy.......you are lucky to be with a beautiful girl.....I remember exchanging PMs with Karli when she first joined FABO and she is cool people. Then on top of it now you are having a little boy. And you got a house to boot.

Looks to me like your getting a pretty nice break after a hard road. IMO

for what its worth, I wish you two FABO peeps and a future mopar head the best. and a lot of us are praying for you.
 
Robert,
I hear ya and understand every bit of what you had said, no a lot may not understand but making certain choices is one thing, HAVING to make choices is a whole other ball-game.....

The health issues shoulders, knees, elbows, etc, yeah that all sucks a failing body, or the feel of it happeningand not much you can do besides fight it, sadly its a difficult fight as you have to take time off to be able to fight. how do I know? I under-gone open heart surgery last year at 34.......... I had NO choice! It was either being split open like a book, OR die of a heart attack. which I'll add here, just that, "Heart Attack" killed both my parents in the past 3 years! RUDE awakening, and hard to deal with......... I know how it feels! My life last year at this time was turned up side down and I'm still awaiting disability, as they at the Social Security office seem to take they're good 'ole freakin time, with everything......... All while the bills pile up!

Hang in there, a lot here are praying for ya and if I have EVER seen anything work, its prayer.....You need to talk, As a few have said, I too am only a PM away!
 
Robert. I can't add anything that we haven't discussed before privately. Sorry it's come to this point. Stay positive. Eileen and I only wish the best for you and your new family.
 
might I also say: look at ALL you have to be thankful for, look at HOW many people are out there with bigger problems than you.
I have always lived in the country, and everyday I marvel at the creations of this world . i'm not one to try to cram any religious belief down anyone's throat, but I can not look at the marvel of a newborn calf, watching crops grow, the sun rise and set without having a belief there is a creator.
please do whatever you have to do to get a handle on this anger before you hurt yourself or someone else. sometimes we have to slow our lives DOWN and get a handle on ourselves.
don't be reluctant to contact your friends on this site for any help we might offer . this site is a family. ( o k, like any family some members could be better!)..... a lot of us that have been around a few years have seen and been though stress in many forms and maybe we can help.
 
You are a smart man, do what you need to so you can take care of yourself and your new family. Best thoughts to you.
 
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