I'd say no .Time to close this thread?
I'd say no .Time to close this thread?
No surprise there.I'd say no .
According to the manufacture it has many reccommended uses. I agree about it's use over a rusted area.Bondo is never used as a repair...it is for correcting small imperfections prior to paint. Epoxies and short or long strand fiberglass may be used for larger voids or where water proofing is required. Nothing will last over rusted metal...not even a welded patch. But a repair over a rusted area can last for sometime if it is kept totally dry.
You leave out the part that a person can do what they want to do. My car is fine and will last a long time. My patch panels are sitting in a different car along with my welder. Watch your BDS .to an extent, i agree that sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
but when you're talking about preserving a car? yeah, bondo billy hack job doesn't come into the equation.
you gotta do what you gotta do to get to work the next day. you gotta do what you gotta do to keep rain water from pouring down the windshield and shorting out your dash on your daily.
you absolutely do not "gotta do what you gotta do" when you not only have the money but you have that gat-damn pre formed patch panels sitting in the trunk of the project car.
20years that's a 03 till 05 passatHow long did/will new metal last ?
Yes but we " gotta do what we gotta do." sometimes to do a no-weld job and sometimes to do what we want to do and what we want to spend. A person doesn't have to replace metal as they can choose a different route.Yes and No. Would I ever say a patch like that has been "Done Properly?" No! But keep in mind that not everybody has a welder. Sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do. So if you are in the hobby, must do everything on a budget and are doing all the work yourself then yes, a patch similar to that can be a workable alternative. Done carefully, hack patch jobs can look good and last quite a while.
What you posted in #27 is a definite NO if the question is was it done properly. That being said, a patch like the one done in #27 could last for many years if done carefully. By carefully I mean scuff all areas with 80 grit for adhesion, make everything clean prior to applying filler, using Duraglass as the base coat is a good idea since it will resist cracking and finally I would apply the final filler in thinner layers. I assure you that I could do a repair like that and it would last for many years. Notice I didn't say Bondo. I never use it. I use Evercoat Rage Gold. I think it is the best. Would I do a repair like in #27? NO! I have been welding in patches for about 20 years, but not everybody has a welder. Some people have to make patches the hard way. Before I knew how to weld, I have made patches with sheet metal where I cut out all the rust, tapped the edges of the hole in a bit so I could pop rivet the patch in and have the rivet head below the level surface and then used filler. Some of those patches lasted at least 15 years.
What will NOT work is some of the patching you see on YouTube (like the rusty wheel well lip in #7) where they just hit the rust with a wire brush, tap the bad area in a bit and then pump in the filler.
LET ME STRESS that I am saying that welding is definitely the best method of patching, and I am not saying that I accept the picture in post #27 as being done 'properly', but " Sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do."
Any estimate on what it would cost to have that work done ? Bondo may be the right choice on that one.20years that's a 03 till 05 passat
Some state laws would argue that point. Check your local lawsYes but we " gotta do what we gotta do." sometimes to do a no-weld job and sometimes to do what we want to do and what we want to spend. A person doesn't have to replace metal as they can choose a different route.
Seems a lot of yall want this nonsense to continue on. Let your voice be heard.Time to close this thread?
That's correct. Some states require a "backer strip" to be added when replacing a large part of a panel to give the patch panel something to be welded to from behind, similar to overlapping. This is for extra strength, stronger than a butt weld. This is to keep the repaired and attached patch panel from becoming a projectile during an accident. You can just imagine some of these repairs he's talking about literally exploding on impact. Who knows where the pieces will end up? Cutting someone in half, perhaps.Some state laws would argue that point. Check your local laws
I know of no state laws that would prohibit fiberglass repairs on body panels that an individual would do or have done.Some state laws would argue that point. Check your local laws
There may be laws that pertain to a business .That's correct. Some states require a "backer strip" to be added when replacing a large part of a panel to give the patch panel something to be welded to from behind, similar to overlapping. This is for extra strength, stronger than a butt weld. This is to keep the repaired and attached patch panel from becoming a projectile during an accident. You can just imagine some of these repairs he's talking about literally exploding on impact. Who knows where the pieces will end up? Cutting someone in half, perhaps.
Then I suggest you look them up.I know of no state laws that would prohibit fiberglass repairs on body panels that an individual would do or have done.
yeah, just like you can drive a bus with your feet. but that doesn't mean it's to be done.You leave out the part that a person can do what they want to do. My car is fine and will last a long time. My patch panels are sitting in a different car along with my welder. Watch your BDS .
Then I suggest you read the laws in your state.There may be laws that pertain to a business .
It's not nonsense at all. Just as an example - If a person has body issues on their car and it would cost 10 times more than the car is worth to have someone repair with metal , why would something they can do themselves that would make more sense, be nonsense ? Or even if it only cost what the car is worth.Seems a lot of yall want this nonsense to continue on. Let your voice be heard.
My vote is YES it's time to close this thread!
Yeah, I wouldn't check into any of that as I would only use fiberglass/bondo on certain areas . Do you know of anybody that checked into any of that before doing fiberglass/bondo work on their car ?Then I suggest you read the laws in your state.
As the apply to business and private sales.
In Missouri, selling an unsafe vehicle is illegal if known defects are not disclosed, as this can be considered fraud and may result in legal liability
. Used vehicles must have a safety inspection certificate before sale, with exceptions for vehicles sold for junk, salvage, or to other dealers. Dealers are required to disclose accident and salvage history, and the failure to do so can lead to fraud claims.
Disclosure requirements and what's illegal
- Disclosure of known problems: It is illegal to sell a car without disclosing known defects, and this can lead to legal liability.
- Accident and salvage history: Dealerships must disclose if a vehicle has been in an accident or has a salvage title.
- Fraudulent practices: Selling a car with a tampered odometer, without disclosing flood damage, or without a title are also illegal fraudulent practices.
Inspection requirements
- Mandatory inspection: Used vehicles must be inspected before they are sold, and the seller must provide a safety inspection certificate that is less than 60 days old.
- Emissions inspection: If you are in a specific area (St. Louis City or Jefferson, St. Charles, or St. Louis counties), an emissions inspection certificate that is not more than 60 days old must also be provided.
- Exceptions: A vehicle does not need an inspection certificate if it's being sold for junk, salvage, or rebuilding, or if it is being sold at a public auction or from one dealer to another.
Your rights if you buy an unsafe car.
Also suggest you ready the buyers rights.
There is no way I would look that up.Then I suggest you look them up.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Ignorance is bliss your call. Locking troll thread .Yeah, I wouldn't check into any of that as I would only use fiberglass/bondo on certain areas . Do you know of anybody that checked into any of that before doing fiberglass/bondo work on their car ?