That's what I had planned if I do it. To get a kit from Peter. He's a stand up guy and If I'm gonna spend that much, that's the kind of person I'm gonna do business with. Thanks, Greg.
no, the ratio is built into the box.
It's expensive for sure. I like the 14:1 ratio plus power assist. No one else offers that. That's probably snatch Vixen around pretty good. lol
First off, you cannot get the same by rebuilding a stock Mopar unit. There will still be the common 11:00 to 1:00 free play in the wheel.
any quicker than that and an involuntary wrist flick might become an impromptu J-turn!
yeah, that's kind of the basis for my argument: you can get something similar, but it's not all the way there. and for the price, you really can't beat the complete package-- all that time spent dinking around for bits and bobs and extra shipping or cleaning and painting adds up.
Sounds like the kit is the way to go. I have plans to do my 63 Belvedere this summer.
Not to Hijack RRR thread but what pulley are you talking about? I have the factory 66’ pump on my 273 with the factory pulley and cast iron water pump . The lines Bergman sells screwed directly to the pump and box and honestly my steering work great. No troubles or belt slip. Not tough to steer or too easy either. Federal style with a (approx) 4.5” pulley is what I have. I see the trw styles have the what looks like a 6” pulley.
I am ordering a complete kit to convert manual to power steering so Bergman is supplying PS pump, PS bracket along with PS box hoses etc. Bergman says an obsolete pulley is needed for his PS pump in order to line up with my original '69 pulleys. My car is original AC manual steering car so original AC crank pulley has a groove for PS belt. Bergman is deleting crank pulley and adding PS pulley from his Master Kit he sells. So Berman is customizing kit to work with my original crank pulley hence need for obsolete PS pump pulley per Bergman that what Pete says is needed. Most kits out there cater to the '70 up aluminum water pump diff pulley offsets from '69 and earlier belt offsets. Hopefully that clears up confusion.
I am “almost” 100% certain the first Borgeson boxes were actually a steering gear adapted for a,b e bodies. That’s where the issues were. The ones available now are made for our cars. I had 0 line up issues input or output shafts to factory parts and only had to cut back my steering shaft for their u-joint which is way smaller than the factory chrysler set up. As for the cooler… I added one because my old fluid temps were really high with a factory box (FF#2) and Doug’s headers in my smaller 66 engine bay. The cooler helped but fluid temps got really high due to the proximity of the factory style box and the header. My 72 Demon with PS and 340/ Doug’s not so much so. Anyhow because the Borgeson box is a lot smaller the fluid temps do not climb anywhere near as hot as the factory with headers.
Manual shaft is longer but its a collapsible for crash impacts. So just slide it in use Bergman coupler so no mods to the manual shaft. That how the shaft is on my '69. Early As some of those might not be collapsible.
Bergman has this made and sells these now. Which adds more cost to the conversion but accomplishes what you’re looking for
Mine is a 64 model. It is solid and does not collapse.
Since my manual steering shaft is longer than a power shaft, help me understand how that will work for me.
I think the later early As have collapsible columns. Peter from Bergman would know. The universal joint couplers will work but you would have to cut your shaft.
For cars with collapsible columns those work. But some years early As, the earlier ones, dont collapse. So have to either cut shaft OR swap to a column that collapses.
