Brainstormin' 440 vs 5.9 ...

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My local machinist is very similar, in as much that he can give you performances outputs just "looking at your combination..." Sad really...

I'm surprised that you haven't been offered some "free performance parts" from the "take offs" of all the experts...

Surely someone has a decent hydraulic cam and lifters that "didn't meet their expectations" that would likely capitalize on your exhaust and intake combination...let alone them 4.30's out back!
LOL.... We'll build the 440 eventually. I'm putting it in as is now because I'm more interested in this project on what it's going to do than I would be in any car project in my yard or on youtube... But rest assured, 318willrun gives parts away, hardly anything comes my way for free. ha!
 
Even though the 440 doesn’t make much more hp than a 2bbl 318, 195 vs 150 hp it’s still probably displacing a lot more air (cfm per hp) for that 195 hp cause it’s so inefficient, every time IQ52 did something about air flow he got decent results on the dyno cams seemed to have less effect, same when Richard Holdener put a mild cam in it didn’t change much.
 
318willrun. I have a 230/230 .489 SFT on a 108 lsa from Or. if you have a small block project your going to abuse your welcome to it.

As far as BB i only have cores. Some 727 parts if your in a jam.

The site should/could/is for those helping each other out IMHO.
 
318willrun. I have a 230/230 .489 SFT on a 108 lsa from Or. if you have a small block project your going to abuse your welcome to it.

As far as BB i only have cores. Some 727 parts if your in a jam.

The site should/could/is for those helping each other out IMHO.
and I hope to help out others in their belief in a RV 440 with the results.. Or maybe I'll help myself out and get an understanding of what a gasping pig it really is.... LOL either way !!!
 
And I’m not saying you won’t see gains from headers. I’m saying the tube size won’t make much difference on a relatively stock 440. I will disagree with 40 numbers though. You will not see that much from a header on that engine
What I see on the dyno is most motors will gain some with headers over manifolds. The motors that have a camshaft with more overlap will respond with a bigger gain than the motors with less overlap when comparing headers to manifolds. 350 small cam 12- 15hp. 350 big cam 26 - 28hp. manifolds to headers.
 
What I see on the dyno is most motors will gain some with headers over manifolds. The motors that have a camshaft with more overlap will respond with a bigger gain than the motors with less overlap when comparing headers to manifolds. 350 small cam 12- 15hp. 350 big cam 26 - 28hp. manifolds to headers.
Agree, Plus as you go up in overlap generally your moving more air (more power).
 
What I see on the dyno is most motors will gain some with headers over manifolds. The motors that have a camshaft with more overlap will respond with a bigger gain than the motors with less overlap when comparing headers to manifolds. 350 small cam 12- 15hp. 350 big cam 26 - 28hp. manifolds to headers.
Thanks for real numbers. Can I ask are you hooking up a y-pipe and 2" single exhaust with a cat and a factory style muffler to the manifolds for those numbers? Do you think 40 hp is a reasonable expectation for a '77 440 going from the '77 manifolds/single exhaust/muffler to Headers/2.5" duals with FX mufflers?
 
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TRYING..... to keep this on every page….. falls to about every other page... LOL

TT5.9mag --------- 16.90
jrc4y4 ------------- 15.30
dirty white boy—— 15.15
71GSSDemon ----- 15.00
Sharpone ---------- 14.85
Killer6——————- 14.81
69conv—————— 14.80
496 polara --------- 14.78
Turbo440Dart ----- 14.70
70SwingerGuy——- 14.65
Mopar44134———- 14.605
Curious Duster ---- 14.50
red67gts ----------- 14.40
a-bodyguy --------- 14.319
67/6barracuda ---- 14.20
junkyardhero ------ 14.00
440 Mike ————— 13.90
fishmen67 --------- 13.80
sr71mopar————- 13.75
273 ----------------- 13.70
Garrett Ellison——- 13.58
331MP ------------- 13.40
RustyRatRod ------ 13.016
 

Also creating reversion, good air can become bad air.
Perhaps my question is out of the scope of this thread but: how does one determine the most duration possible before reversion occurs? I'm suspecting there is some relation to LSA, and or how fast the cam can close the intake valve.
 
About the only cam I would look at with that is one of the old Crower Baja Beast or Isky Mile-A-Mor cam on a 108 with 100-103 ICL without some increase in compression. It would probably be as much of a broomstick save for the extra overlap.
 
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Can someone recap the combo so those of us who are late to class can catch up and make a guess?
As they said above... RV 440, it has a torker intake on it, it's going in a D150 long bed, will have headers, as the truck sits now it's 4.30 gear, may back off a little if it's too much gear for the RV engine
 
Perhaps my question is out of the scope of this thread but: how does one determine the most duration possible before reversion occurs? I'm suspecting there is some relation to LSA, and or how fast the cam can close the intake valve.
a wider LSA will decrease overlap and reversion.
Head flow and air speed enhance the ability to combat reversion
 
What I see on the dyno is most motors will gain some with headers over manifolds. The motors that have a camshaft with more overlap will respond with a bigger gain than the motors with less overlap when comparing headers to manifolds. 350 small cam 12- 15hp. 350 big cam 26 - 28hp. manifolds to headers.
I wholeheartedly agree with that entire assessment. And I’d like to add, an engine with a higher specific output will respond more than an engine with a lower specific output.
 
As they said above... RV 440, it has a torker intake on it, it's going in a D150 long bed, will have headers, as the truck sits now it's 4.30 gear, may back off a little if it's too much gear for the RV engine
After it’s in the truck and run a few passes, can I please request the first modification to be an rpm air gap intake in place of the torker. Before any other changes are made.
 
After it’s in the truck and run a few passes, can I please request the first modification to be an rpm air gap intake in place of the torker. Before any other changes are made.
My thought with the torker was when I build the 440, it will be the right intake. I wish I had an RPM, I would swap it at the strip and give you the before/after right there! One of the benefits of the 8 bolts and dry intake
 
My thought with the torker was when I build the 440, it will be the right intake. I wish I had an RPM, I would swap it at the strip and give you the before/after right there! One of the benefits of the 8 bolts and dry intake
Maybe someone on fabo has one they can loan for a test. If I had one I certainly would. Anyone have an intake they’d like to loan and see a test with?
 
Maybe someone on fabo has one they can loan for a test. If I had one I certainly would. Anyone have an intake they’d like to loan and see a test with?
I imagine shipping would be about 40 each way. They are on sale at Jegs/Summit for 358.16 right now. If somebody has a "GOOD" used RPM Air Gap and would do 200 shipped, I will buy it and do the test at the track. Not one that needs repairs... LOL

https://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/7193/10002/-1


CHRYSLER Edelbrock 7193 Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake Manifolds | Summit Racing
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