Did anybody saw this important video of Joe Zolper

[CRUZE 418]

I have a lot of respect for Joe. He is a very accomplished person. Usually, when someone is angry, there is a reason. What are you angry about? I too have wondered when it's all going to run out, it will. It's going to happen to most of us at some time. Blah, Blah, Blah to your your B,B,B.

 

[A56]

I have a lot of respect for Joe. He is a very accomplished person. Usually, when someone is angry, there is a reason. What are you angry about? I too have wondered when it's all going to run out, it will. It's going to happen to most of us at some time. Blah, Blah, Blah to your your B,B,B.

he's angry for a reason, so make a video showing you're angry? Maybe it was all of the ad nauseum phone calls he keeps talking about.

 

[A56]

While he judges everyone else.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I think @abodyjoe pretty much nailed it about the guy in the video. He seems to have anger issues. He comes across that way in about every video he puts out. He even acted that way to a little lesser degree when he was on the TV show Garage Squad, that got cancelled. His message, which has a lot of truth to it kind of gets lost in the delivery. I don't have kids, or nieces or nephews who would give a crap about my stuff. My plan is, to leave it to guys a few decades behind me in life who DO like old cars, but are right in the middle of their most productive time in life. They actually do have the money to buy old cars, but won't do it because they want the security of paying their home off first. The guys I have in mind are people I used to work with before I retired a few years ago. It will all work out, so none of this really worries me.

I agree his message may have truth......for some, but the way he brings it across is, it's the same for everybody and it's not. He's an idiot. At best.

 

[A56]

lmao, good grief, I have never wondered about when this would end. Can't even imagine what would prompt that thought. Too many real important things for me to wonder about I guess.

 

[Duster360LA]

This thread makes me appreciate what I have. Retired 2 1/2 years ago determined to get a project car. Finishing up a resomod on my 74 Duster by November and hitting the road next spring to hit a bunch of small town car shows/swap meets. My 35 year old son now has the bug and wants to get a car he can drive while working on, so we are starting that hunt (always the fun part). But a lot of my car buddies have kids who aren't interested in the hobby.

 

[YY1]

This hobby is dying.

This hobby is "graying".


Those topics come up on EVERY social media site for EVERY hobby there is about every 2-3 years.

...since the internet had social media sites.


In the mean time, if you actually go price 30's "hot rods" or 55-57 chevies...

I'm not seeing any decline whatsoever.

 

[Dartsun]

What my kid does when I'm wrenching in the garage.

 

[mopowers]

I would challenge a few things he said. He mentioned that no one gives a **** these days about hotrods and street rods. I call bullshit. The prices of 30's era coupes are higher than they've ever been. At least the ones I've been looking at are.

He also mentioned that the value of the 60's era muscle cars will "plummet" as the older generation dies off. Again - bullshit. Some people have been saying that for years, but just look at the prices continuing to rise. In fact, he contradicted himself when he said that because he also mentioned the example of the $12,000 roached Duster he saw. So, which one is it?

Lastly, of course prices for these cars are increasing. Prices of EVERYTHING are increasing. It's called inflation. That $12k Duster (that maybe pulls $10k) he mentioned was probably a $3-5K car 10-20 yrs ago. Seems about right to me. The fact that teenagers can't afford these cars is another issue all together and is not specific to old cars. That points to the general cost of living and a TON of other reasons, but an economist can break it down a lot better than the bunch of us bonehead Mopar guys.

 

[YY1]

There's another recent article floating around about how the collector car market is "soft" right now.

WHAT??

BS

It's pretty easy to find pricing trends and the sites I've seen the past few months don't show that at all.

Doesn't jive with what I'm seeing on "less than concours" listings, either.

 

[340sFastback]

I think if supply out strips demand yeah prices will drop. But supply of classic era muscle cars isn''t real high. Its not like there are thousands of really nice ones sitting around looking for buyers any time soon. I think old guys dying off will lower demand and could effect prices. But we are going to need to have a lot more supply then demand for prices to tank.

Are '55 - '57 chevies tanking in value?

Either way these cars aren't investments. They are impractical toys. I own mine cause I like to drive it. If it tanks in value later on I don't really care.

 

[barbee6043]

The guy trying to buy a classic: " Darn, these cars that are good ones, are so darn high! And,,,,,, Nothing out there!"

The guy trying to sell a classic: " I have a good one, I have $40,000 in it and can not get an offer over $25,000. All my buds say I am a fool if I take less than $50,000! Screw it, I will sit on it till I die!"

Guy trying to a buy a classic project: "There must be 10,000 project cars for sale on FB Marketplace, CL, etc etc. ALL over priced took apart, rusty, in boxes projects! All with silly ask prices. My buds say it is a buyers market!!!! If I see one that could be worth having, at a decent price, it is 1000 miles away and sold in 2 days! The rest never sell till the price gets way cheap enough and because it is a model no one wants!" and then he says " I would buy a nice car done by a NON pro shop, can't afford a $10,000 paint job, bla bla bla, 71 hemi Cudas are hard to find and expensive! ....but since it is a buyers market and everyone says it is way cheaper to buy a done car than build a project, I will only pay such and suck, and it must be good enough to beat Joe's 71 Hemi Cuda at the local 'dog and pony' show!"

Guy trying to sell a classic project. "I bought a desirable builder model worth the $, did all the work, it is a nice car, not perfect, but 95% finished. I can't get half what I have in it and did all the work and good work at that. It been advertised on 3-4 sites for 4 months. All my car buds say it is a buyers market, but where are all the buyers!! and....Every comment on the FB hobby sites all say such as " wish I could afford it, nice car, worth the $, wish it not so far, my wife says no, HS daughter is pregnant, cat is sick and needs surgery." So I cancelled the ads, and said screw it!"

 

[Kern Dog]

Would you give your teenager a car without air bags?

Sure.
We drove them and survived.

 

[barbee6043]

Sure.
We drove them and survived.

When I was about 23, I got hit head on one Sat. morning about 9 AM, I was in my 66 1/2 ton Ford but I was pulling a gooseneck emplement trailer going about 55, loaded with a tractor and such. He was drunk, running bout 95 racing his drunk girlfriend back to town after a night of drinking, he was in his 60 something big Lincoln.. He tried to pass her up a small hill, he ran off the road and lost control,I top'ed the hill and hard no time to even try to hit the ditch. Shattered on kneecap, cut the tendons into, a few other rips and cuts. The tractor broke the huge log chains and landed on top on the neck of the trailer. It killed his sorry drunk ***.

It took a year before I could bend that leg even half way. 55 years later, that knee is still messed up but at least I have not had to have replacement joint! I figure the weight of the loaded trailer saved my life.

It made quite a "thud" on impact. I still have dreams about it. Maybe nightmare is a better term.

No one would ride with me for a few years. Every time I would meet a coming car on the S Ga blacktop, I let off the gas and moved over towards the shoulder. Just instinct I imagine.

Yes really!

 

[ir3333]

Some of my friends never made it out of their teens driving their old muscle cars. And 6 biker friends bought it.
I think you take an unbelievable risk on a bike!

 

[YY1]

Kinda takes most of the fun out of it.

...but not all.

 

[Kern Dog]

Some of my friends never made it out of their teens driving their old muscle cars. And 6 biker friends bought it.
I think you take an unbelievable risk on a bike!

Really? You mean dope smoking, beer drinking idiots in cars with bias ply tires, high horsepower and 4 wheel drum brakes were not a safe combination?

By your logic, we need to put our kids in bubbles to keep them safe?
No.

 

[MopaR&D]

Really? You mean dope smoking, beer drinking idiots in cars with bias ply tires, high horsepower and 4 wheel drum brakes were not a safe combination?

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By your logic, we need to put our kids in bubbles to keep them safe?
No.

A car accident is pretty traumatic even in something modern with all the safety features so if a kid is dumb enough to not drive safely, maybe it's better if he/she can at least walk away from it and learn a lesson.

On the flip side, it's a parent's responsibility to teach their children why they need to be safe and how to do so. If I have a kid that happens to be one of "those people" who just can't learn from their mistakes, hell no I'm not putting them in a classic car. After crashing their first beater I get for them they'll have to buy their own anyway. But if they have the mindset like I did as a teenager (if I drive stupid and hit something in this 1970 car I will die, or my dad will kill me) I might do it.

Lots to consider really.

WRT to the OP, haven't watched the video yet but I can guess what it's about based on the responses and I don't really care to listen to older guys whine about kids being different than them. I'm only 34 and the world is already a far different place than it was when I was a teenager. All I hope for is for kids to be mindful, self-aware and responsible; if they aren't into modding cars and driving, can't really blame them. It's expensive and driving on public roads sucks balls nowadays.

 

[Killer6]

Really? You mean dope smoking, beer drinking idiots in cars with bias ply tires, high horsepower and 4 wheel drum brakes were not a safe combination?

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By your logic, we need to put our kids in bubbles to keep them safe?
No.

If anything, newer cars with the entire alphabet(ABS/TCS/SCS/SRS/BSD/DAS/CAS) just enourages & fools young drivers that they are way better drivers than they are, & that the modern safety systems will save them. Sadly, drivers are driving like complete fooking idiots more than ever, and the vehicles are allowing them to get into trouble at much higher velocities.......fatalities almost every single day, & I think the news stated last week that they have jumped up to the highest in 7 years so far this year....and it ain't over.

 

[RAT ROD AL]

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[340sFastback]

I am going to get a garage spot set aside for when '68 '69 Charger RTs tank in value because no one wants them anymore. Will be able to get one dirt cheap like he said in the video. He is making it sound like this huge giant drop in value is not that far away right??

Hemi Cudas, AAR Cudas, original paint 340 4 spd Demons, wing cars all giant discounts because no one will want them no buyers plummet in value right?

 

[Inertia]

I keep reminding my son's and my grandson, who we are building his 67 GT for next grad.
That pretty soon, - they will be the only ones that actually know all about building these cars, every bit, top to bottom.
My 6 mo old granddaughter has my other son's ( RIP ) Dart waiting for her 16th birthday .
Hope they pass the passion on . . .but . . .

 

[barbee6043]

I am going to get a garage spot set aside for when '68 '69 Charger RTs tank in value because no one wants them anymore. Will be able to get one dirt cheap like he said in the video. He is making it sound like this huge giant drop in value is not that far away right??

Hemi Cudas, AAR Cudas, original paint 340 4 spd Demons, wing cars all giant discounts because no one will want them no buyers plummet in value right?

Almost reminds me when the first bottom fell out of the classic "muscle" car market. '91-92.

The "investor" ran up the high end cars after the stock market crash. That pulled up the value of the lesser models, and there it started. The speculators of the high end cars left, in '92, and it left the little guy with his collection (usually sitting in the weeds) common ish models like 68-70 Roadrunners, for example, etc etc. The lower end of collectability back then. Most of what the little guy had was 99% projects of various conditions and flavors. Maybe one runner. Plenty of desire but the little guy could not afford to buy and step up unless he sold some of what he had. No one was buying. Then... The high end guys left were the "real" car guys that had the desire and $ and were not fueled by greed and an investment portfolio.

Mopar (Action for example) mags in '92 kept saying how such and such Hemi Cuda just sold for *** $$$ and all it was was a mega $ investor selling off his overpriced cars to another mega $$ friend. One rich guy unloading and screwing his $$ "friend". Yes all this is true.

Market slowly came back bit by bit, till it fell apart somewhat again.. and again..... and so is the classic car hobby.

I am glad I was never a high end guy. I had them before they were worth much!!!

 

[CRUZE 418]

Forget all this, I want to know what's the best oil and weight. In other words, someone's always got something to ***** or argue about, and today you want to ***** about what Joe has said.
You know, we aren't really talking about cars here, everyone's fired up over politics and venting here. So go at it all you Kings of America.

 

[A56]

I am going to get a garage spot set aside for when '68 '69 Charger RTs tank in value because no one wants them anymore. Will be able to get one dirt cheap like he said in the video. He is making it sound like this huge giant drop in value is not that far away right??

Hemi Cudas, AAR Cudas, original paint 340 4 spd Demons, wing cars all giant discounts because no one will want them no buyers plummet in value right?