340six
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How much distance is your K Frame tonthe ground.
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just-t-t-t enough to get the jack under it.
(sometimes i'll need to give the bumper a little tug to get there)
(sometimes i'll need to give the bumper a little tug to get there)
4mulas
Fixem'up
How big is your jack?
IT'S AVERAGE SIZE!!How big is your jack?
A56
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340six
King Of Bling
OK someone one real answer. Thanks
4mulas
Fixem'up
The height above the ground for your k-frame directly is directly proportionate to the ride height of your car.
The service manual gives you a spec to set your car to the proper ride height and measuring from the Center of the k-frame to the ground is not how you do it. To set ride height you measure the difference between the height to the Center of the LCA pivot and a spot in the LCA near the ball joint. The spec is in the manual and I don’t recall it right now.
that was a serious answer!
the actual measurement inches wise? i dunno, probably 4" maybe 4.5
Well, geez. Depends on wheel/ tire size, the "stance" AKA whether the rear is somewhat jacked, and where are the T bar height adjusters set. I bet you could get AS MUCH AS 8" difference in that figure.
Why are you asking, and what is the real question. You don't set ride height by measuring to the ground, and many of us don't set ride height by the book, anyhow. I set mine so a visual looks like I have lots of room in the bump stops, then check the height against the book, and fiddle from there
That factory approved method is fine for stock vehicles that you want to keep stock.
These cars all were able to get more caster with the front lower than stock.
The OP asked for a number from the K member to the ground. He did not ask for a factory approved method that nobody I know actually uses except the purists.
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Agreed on that exact measurement. Lift on the bumper when quickly rolling the floor jack in place
4mulas
Fixem'up
Sure. But isn’t the k-member to the ground measurement relative to the ride height? So in order to get the OP a number doesn’t the ride height have to be set, which then makes the information I gave him 100 percent relevant?
Also, yes you CAN set the ride wherever you want but if you give factory approved methods out as guidance then it’s up to to the individual user to do with it what they want.
Not sure where you’re going with this one?
(I used that method on this car and think it both handles and looks okay?)
Plus making a measurement for someone based off of their ability to slide a jack under it is not good advise. Purely based on the fact that there are so many different kinds of jacks out there each with different heights off the ground to the lifting pad)
"Where I'm going with this one..."
Pretty simple, really. Awhile back, I asked a similar question on another forum. I too got responses from members telling me of the correct factory approved method of measuring ride height and then, just like now, I didn't care to read or hear of that.
The OP here didn't ask about any factory method, he asked a specific question about the distance between the K member and the ground.
It would be like asking a question about how much Ibuprofen to take for a headache and getting responses telling you to use Aspirin instead.
It is not a direct answer to the specific question that was asked.
What day is it? It is four o'clock.
What time is the bus expected to arrive? I suggest that you cut back on carbohydrates.
See my point?
If a man were to respond with more eloquence, he would not set himself up to be criticized....
The distance between the K member and ground? Well, in my 70 Valiant, it is about 6 inches but mine is set to the correct factory ride height. Just to let you know, there is a proper way to establish the ride height....it involves a few steps other than just the distance between the K member and ground.
A response like that wouldn't come across as scolding or condescending, just helpful.
Cheers....
Pretty simple, really. Awhile back, I asked a similar question on another forum. I too got responses from members telling me of the correct factory approved method of measuring ride height and then, just like now, I didn't care to read or hear of that.
The OP here didn't ask about any factory method, he asked a specific question about the distance between the K member and the ground.
It would be like asking a question about how much Ibuprofen to take for a headache and getting responses telling you to use Aspirin instead.
It is not a direct answer to the specific question that was asked.
What day is it? It is four o'clock.
What time is the bus expected to arrive? I suggest that you cut back on carbohydrates.
See my point?
If a man were to respond with more eloquence, he would not set himself up to be criticized....
The distance between the K member and ground? Well, in my 70 Valiant, it is about 6 inches but mine is set to the correct factory ride height. Just to let you know, there is a proper way to establish the ride height....it involves a few steps other than just the distance between the K member and ground.
A response like that wouldn't come across as scolding or condescending, just helpful.
Cheers....
4mulas
Fixem'up
Ok
I really did think the response was a scolding or condescending. Just trying to send someone down the right path. I think the response of just right around where the jack slides in is bad. I have a low profile jack and the lifting pad is about 4" off the ground.
Why is it bad advise to instruct someone what the maker of the vehicle suggests you do?
It is the manner in which another member expresses himself.
Now, I am probably touchy about this issue because I have dealt with it before.
I actually respect and appreciate helpful advice as long as it isn't given in a tone that seems rude, corrective, punitive or condescending.
A guy at FBBO berated me for the way that I asked about ride height and went on to boast about his expertise while criticizing mine. I asked about ride height in relation to the distance from the wheelwells to the ground as shown:
One particular member jumped in to rudely correct me and it went south from there.
Screw that. I'm always ready for a fight and willing to defend myself when anyone steps up to me. I'm also ready to admit when I screwed up and apologize for any mistakes that I have made.
Now, I am probably touchy about this issue because I have dealt with it before.
I actually respect and appreciate helpful advice as long as it isn't given in a tone that seems rude, corrective, punitive or condescending.
A guy at FBBO berated me for the way that I asked about ride height and went on to boast about his expertise while criticizing mine. I asked about ride height in relation to the distance from the wheelwells to the ground as shown:
One particular member jumped in to rudely correct me and it went south from there.
Screw that. I'm always ready for a fight and willing to defend myself when anyone steps up to me. I'm also ready to admit when I screwed up and apologize for any mistakes that I have made.
4mulas
Fixem'up
Sorry you had to deal with that guy. Not my intension to do that to anyone.
On this thread that’s why my first post actually asked the one fella how big his jack was (I wasn’t trying to make a wise crack), what I should have asked was how high off the ground it was. Ie: I used a lot of 5 ton jacks doing tires for a living where the pad was around 6-7" off the ground, and other floor jacks as low as three inches. That’s why when the thread derailed a bit I thought I’d discuss the ride height measurement method to help get him there.
On this thread that’s why my first post actually asked the one fella how big his jack was (I wasn’t trying to make a wise crack), what I should have asked was how high off the ground it was. Ie: I used a lot of 5 ton jacks doing tires for a living where the pad was around 6-7" off the ground, and other floor jacks as low as three inches. That’s why when the thread derailed a bit I thought I’d discuss the ride height measurement method to help get him there.
I usually don't hold grudges. I have to be really pissed off to do so.
I screw up enough and really appreciate being given the chance to redeem myself after apologizing so I absolutely treat others the same way.
I don't remember any specific member that I thought was rude here and it really doesn't matter. I meant to actually measure a few of my cars here just to help the man but I got busy and distracted today....Another FABO member and I just finished a 5.9/408 build and engine install....
I have a couple of B bodies and a couple A bodies I can check on and report back.
I screw up enough and really appreciate being given the chance to redeem myself after apologizing so I absolutely treat others the same way.
I don't remember any specific member that I thought was rude here and it really doesn't matter. I meant to actually measure a few of my cars here just to help the man but I got busy and distracted today....Another FABO member and I just finished a 5.9/408 build and engine install....
I have a couple of B bodies and a couple A bodies I can check on and report back.
while my initial response of "just enough to get the jack under it" was somewhat tongue in cheek, most of us have been around long enough to recognize that we're not using 5 tonners on these crap cans and most standard jack cups are about 4-ish inches tall
or like i said it's average
(or is it height/weight appropriate?)
(oh, and hi fellow fleet worker! *waves*)
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That’s what she said…
Mine is roughly 4-5 inches above the pavement. I also welded a piece of 1/4" flat bar at an angle under the leading edge of my 8 quart oil pan as a safety measure. I've seen too many pans and engines destroyed because they banged the pan letting off with good traction at the strip.
DionR
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I measured mine last night and got about 6.875" at the lowest point
Same here with my reply, but also now thinking if I get a new jack, I can lower the car more.
OP...don't lower your car to a height of my jack. Use your's. LOL
Just playing, but also, that is how I set mine. Just enough to get the just under - ish
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