light group wiring harness

[Pentarockstar]

I have a 69 Dart 340 swinger. I am looking to add the interior light group to my car. I have all the lights, glove box, ash tray, map, and ignition light.

Looking at the wiring diagrams, it appears to have a harness that connects all these lights together. Is this true? If so, how can i find one?

Thanks!
Michael

 

[dartindanno]

Wiring and Electrical – MyMopar

 

[Mattax]

Ignition light also needs the timer to turn it off and may need a special housing with the hole for the light to show through.
I know that circuit has been discussed here, although not certain if it was '69.

Best bet may be to find someone parting a '69 A-body with that option.
Second bet is to ask if M&H will make it.
Part number may be in the part book, more likely in the assembly drawings.

 

[4spdragtop]

You could make your own? I made my own dash harness. I have a lot of leftover wire/connectors from making my harness. Pm if interested

 

[Murray]

Ignition light has a time delay canister built into it.

 

[Pentarockstar]

It looks like the part number is 2926015 for E and B body. It might be the same for A bodies.

As far as building my own, I have done this, but I had a wiring harness to copy from. Knowing the length of the wire and the right connectors would be too much for my small brain.

I will contact M&H to see what they can do.

 

[Pentarockstar]

Where can I find assembly drawings? I would like to know where it plugs into the regular harness.

 

[Mattax]

Faxon has exclusive right to them.
http://www.faxonautoliterature.com/...-and-Body-Assembly-Manual-Reprint-P34823.aspx

The book has most but not everything.

My review of Faxon book, 1967-1969 Dodge & Plymouth Body & Electrical Assembly Manual | For A Bodies Only Mopar Forum

 

[Mattax]

Kindof rushing this but if I'm reading this correct.
This is snap shot of the drawing page.

E Series = 1969
L = Dart

I *think* the harness you want is the top one, which includes a map lamp.
The number in the box is 16
But maybe also the lower one which is Lamp On buzzer wiring.
The number in that box is 19

Several pags earlier on C 2.0 is the key.
Box 16 => 2926 770 Assy-Accessory Lamp Wiring - Dart - All
Box 19 =>2926 822 Assy - Lamp on Reminder buzzer wiring - Dart

The boxes with letters them aer keyed on the page.
For example G is the map lamp. Note it has two possible locations depending on whether there is air conditioning.

Circled letters are wire colors.

 

[Mattax]

It is possible to manually clean up the drawings if needed for clarity.
Takes some time to get a good photo or scan and then with somehting like IRFAN draw or more powerful prgram delete and erase extraneous markings and items that don't apply. Type in part numbers or whatever is needed for your own purposes.

 

[Pentarockstar]

Thanks for the drawings Mattax, they have been very helpful in find where the wiring looms are at. It looks like the light group harness is powered off the cigar lighter.

 

[Mattax]

It looks like the light group harness is powered off the cigar lighter

Looking at the diagrams, I agree.
X1-16R otherwise connects direct to the lighter.

 

[Pentarockstar]

That is super cool. I am an electrician and teach electronics, so this kind of thing really rings my bell. Thank you for taking the time to find it for me. We need more folks like yourself.

 

[Mattax]

That last diagram is right out of the pdferized '69 Dodge Shop manual from mymopar.com
I compared that with the instrument panel diagram on pages 104-5 which shows X1 going to the cigar lighter

You might like the Faxon book of assembly drawings in spite of its reduced size and horrible watermark.

 

[b-body fan]

Working on a dash for my 1970 Duster and I have similar concerns about cigar lighter power feeds. I am working the dash on a bench setup and going through the connections but I am not clear about the power feeds for two lighters, one in the ashtray compartment and the other on the front of the dash nearest the passenger. I do have the accessory harness with map light and switch which has the X1A-16P wire which is long enough to connect to either lighter. Looking at the 1970 Valiant service manual diagrams it shows X1-16R connecting to an unspecified lighter and on the accessory harness diagram it shows the X1-A-16P connecting to unspecified lighter. If I connect my X1-16R red wire to the passenger lighter then I cannot connect it to the accessory harness to power the M3-18P/X1-A-16P junction which means that harness wont have power.
What am I missing…thanks in advance for the help.

 

[RedFish]

I told myself I wouldn't post another word that might help someone here but,,, only reason you have a lighter well in your dash is because of a 1 year only dash design (1968). Ma mopar didn't bother to delete it. If you saw the rings burned into dash bezels that I have seen you would NOT desire a hot wire there. Miss the hole was easier done with the argent color bezel but still,,, How many smokers you have on board? Happy moparing

 

[George Jets]

It is possible to manually clean up the drawings if needed for clarity.
Takes some time to get a good photo or scan and then with somehting like IRFAN draw or more powerful prgram delete and erase extraneous markings and items that don't apply. Type in part numbers or whatever is needed for your own purposes.

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[b-body fan]

I told myself I wouldn't post another word that might help someone here but,,, only reason you have a lighter well in your dash is because of a 1 year only dash design (1968). Ma mopar didn't bother to delete it. If you saw the rings burned into dash bezels that I have seen you would NOT desire a hot wire there. Miss the hole was easier done with the argent color bezel but still,,, How many smokers you have on board? Happy moparing

Redfish- Thank you for your reply. No smokers here or ever in my classic car but there’s something about pushing the lighter to watch it and hear it pop out, seeing the familiar glow of the coils while imagining the idea of smoking being so common back then that we needed our own lighter just a little bit closer. I have never seen a melted bezel but heck, I haven’t seen many uncut ones either. You’ve made perfect sense and quelled my desire to make that dash lighter functional because it makes the most sense compared to dealing with the alternative.
So heres a picture of the X1-16R red wire from the body harness connected to the accessory harness to provide power to the M3-18P/X1-A-16P junction so the accessory harness can have power for the ashtray lighter(long pink wire), map light etc..


Thanks again to All!

 

[Mattax]

The connector in your hand now can go to the ash tray lighter. Its occassionally handy to have that socket for 12v air pump or a USB power adapter, etc.

 

[CRUZE 418]

Evans may be another source for the harness. In the dash area, this was on my Road Runner, seems like there were 2 or 3 separate harnesses, they all plug into each other at or near there area. The timer for the ignition is still available. I got 2 off the internet, one for a spare.