Lining up Linkage, A833

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need help adjusting my linkage

I've taken in this thread, and I think I'm up to speed on the process. I have the shifter box lined up in neutral, no problem. Now, I have kind of a DA question...other than getting under the car and observing the trans tail shaft while the engine turns over, how do I know the trans is in neutral? I'm working alone most of the time so I can't watch the tail shaft and turn the engine over at the same time.
 
There is no "other than getting under the car". There's no magic wand. You have to get under the car.
 
If you have a tail shaft yoke for the transmission, slide it in the output/tail shaft & you should be able to turn the tranny pretty easy if it's in neutral, no need to have the engine running. If no tail shaft yoke, you can turn the output shaft by bolting the driveshaft back in & turning it. You don't need to have the engine running at any point to check for neutral, but you DO have to get under the car, no helper needed though. What Scodi21 &RRR said is correct.
 
AJ/FormS said:
How about turn the key to start......... lol.
If the trans is in neutral, it will crank.
If the trans is not in neutral or the NSS is Not installed,
then it will not crank.
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Four speeds had a reverse light switch, not a NSS... clutch safety switches didn't come on the scene until the '70s. You can start the early ones in gear.
 
Thanks, guys. I guess I wasn't very descriptive. I know I have to be under the car to put the tabs in the correct neutral position. There's no way around that. I just don't know what neutral position looks like. Scody21 response above answers my question about what position of the tab is neutral. I guess if I'd thought about it a little more, the middle position for neutral would have been intuitive. But, better to ask. Since the reverse tab has only 2 positions, which position does it need to be in to be in neutral?
 
charliec said:
Thanks, guys. I guess I wasn't very descriptive. I know I have to be under the car to put the tabs in the correct neutral position. There's no way around that. I just don't know what neutral position looks like. Scody21 response above answers my question about what position of the tab is neutral. I guess if I'd thought about it a little more, the middle position for neutral would have been intuitive. But, better to ask. Since the reverse tab has only 2 positions, which position does it need to be in to be in neutral?
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The tab should be to the front of the trans, as when reverse is pushed forward it pulled the tab back into gear.
 
charliec said:
other than getting under the car and observing the trans tail shaft while the engine turns over, how do I know the trans is in neutral?
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Op said observing the trans tailshaft, while the engine turns over.
AFAIK the only way to see the trans tailshaft is
if the driveshaft is off.
So pardon me if I can read.
 
Professor Fate said:
Four speeds had a reverse light switch, not a NSS... clutch safety switches didn't come on the scene until the '70s. You can start the early ones in gear.
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All good info, for sure. Only thing is, the engine isn't running yet. The only way I can turn it is to put a socket on the crank bolt and turn it by hand. I can't do that and observe from under the car at the same time. Maybe ya'll can, but I'm just not that good. :lol:
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I put a paint mark on the end of the tail shaft, so now I can turn the engine from the front crank bolt and get back under the car and see if it moved.
 
charliec said:
Thanks, guys. I guess I wasn't very descriptive. I know I have to be under the car to put the tabs in the correct neutral position. There's no way around that. I just don't know what neutral position looks like. Scody21 response above answers my question about what position of the tab is neutral. I guess if I'd thought about it a little more, the middle position for neutral would have been intuitive. But, better to ask. Since the reverse tab has only 2 positions, which position does it need to be in to be in neutral?
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Come on man. You gotta 50/50 chance. LOL You'll get it.
 

charliec said:
All good info, for sure. Only thing is, the engine isn't running yet. The only way I can turn it is to put a socket on the crank bolt and turn it by hand. I can't do that and observe from under the car at the same time. Maybe ya'll can, but I'm just not that good. :lol:
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I put a paint mark on the end of the tail shaft, so now I can turn the engine from the front crank bolt and get back under the car and see if it moved.
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niceolddart said:
If you have a tail shaft yoke for the transmission, slide it in the output/tail shaft & you should be able to turn the tranny pretty easy if it's in neutral, no need to have the engine running. If no tail shaft yoke, you can turn the output shaft by bolting the driveshaft back in & turning it. You don't need to have the engine running at any point to check for neutral, but you DO have to get under the car, no helper needed though. What Scodi21 &RRR said is correct.
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^^^ This ^^^. Marking it with paint might not help because the tailshaft will still turn even in neutral if it doesn't have a slight load on it. I would do what niceolddart says.
 
There are three positions for both shift forks.

Use a small crescent wrench and use it to move the forks.

Move them one way until they stop and then back one click and you’re done.

Takes about 30 seconds once I get my fat *** down there. And about 5 minutes to get back up.
 
I know what you mean. I'm thinking that getting down there and back up more often would probably do me some good.
 
Well, if you're lving in the clouds, you're probably older than me. :lol:

I'm 75 years young
 
If I recall running through this procedure just last summer you put an alignment pin (or allen key) through the hole in the shifter body and shift levers to line them up. I guess this assumes your shift rods are somewhere in the ball park of adjustment. The reverse lever doesn't always have a hole but lines up with the others. If you put the shifter in and move it around (after removing the pin) you should know if you are in neutral or not. Have you done this? I guess you could put the driveshaft in and put the rear axle on jack stands if you really want to make sure.....or make sure there is room in front and behind the car and turn the key.
 
Yeah, I have the shifter box in neutral with the hole pinned. The rods are not even close to adjusted. They were completely taken apart for refurbishing, so I'm starting from scratch here. That's basically what this whole exercise is about. I have the box in neutral, and I'll get the trans in neutral. Then I'll be able to properly adjust the rods.

I took the advice of NiceOldDart and slipped the yoke onto the tail shift. She won't turn even a smidgen. So, I've got some more work to do to get the trans totally out of gear.
 
install a slip yoke in the trans, then use a crescent wrench to shift the trans gears, as you turn the yoke. once it turns you have found neutral. adjust rods to fit on the trans forks. its very simple adjustment.once done the yoke will turn, thats how i have done mine every time
 
Make sure the side cover gearshift levers are nice and squared off and have good engagement with the shifter operating levers.
If not, neutral will be difficult to locate, as well as getting in/out of gear.

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