Man tracks down classic car stolen in 1995

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.............WOW.......great for the owner, bummer for the seller...........i wonder if the owner was paid out when it was stolen........prolly happens more than we think......kim.......
 
just goes to show why you need to carefully verify the V.I.N. on any car you buy
if the numbers are not 100% correct, WALK AWAY FAST!
 
Seems like this happens a lot more often. There was a man in Myrtle Beach SC had his 71 440 6 Pak Challenger stolen that his grandfather bought new. Several owners had gone through and had new data plates made reflecting the changes. The FBI was the ones who found it and returned it. Sadly it wasn't original any more.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=397947&page=1
 
not just cars but everything on ebay might be stolen. This is why there is such great buys on ebay sometimes. People shoplift and put the brand new items on ebay.

would not be surprise if 10--15% of all items listed for sale on ebay are in fact stolen
 
dodge freak said:
not just cars but everything on ebay might be stolen. This is why there is such great buys on ebay sometimes. People shoplift and put the brand new items on ebay.

would not be surprise if 10--15% of all items listed for sale on ebay are in fact stolen
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If the % isn't higher, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't closer to 25 % or more.
 
I tell you though, if i was that car owner I would be screaming--how do we know if just that door is from that stolen car? Heck my car has different doors on it, old ones had some rust so i got some rust free doors.

yeah the rivets on the vin might be changed, still. The vin could had just been removed for restoration and put back on. Lots of stuff could have happen since 1995

well not my problem.
 
This happened to a friend of mine. He bought a chevy truck and kept it for 5 years. He did many upgrades including a new wood floor for the bed. One day the police came and knocked on the door and took it away to its rightful owner. He received nothing for any upgrades ect.
 
old tired rebel said:
Seems like this happens a lot more often. There was a man in Myrtle Beach SC had his 71 Hemi Challenger stolen that his grandfather bought new. Several owners had gone through and had new data plates made reflecting the changes. The FBI was the ones who found it and returned it. Sadly it wasn't original any more.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=397947&page=1
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First off you can't secretly record people without telling/informing them that you're recording the conversion. That's a lawsuit in itself. Second, if I bought a car (and didn't know it was stolen) and some dipshit tried pullin that on me (car getting seized, after I legally bought it with title in my hand, etc...) I'd burn that damn to the ground. I don't care what the cops say you want the car back you can have worthless burned down shell back, especially because I wouldnt be getting my money back. All this can be prevented with a better check of VINs before cars can be sold or bought i.e. the car must be verifed by the State Patrol that it isn't stolen and the vins are intact. This would cut this kind of B.S. down quick (plus if the car turn out to be stolen and something like this happened the unsuspecting owner could have a legal recourse to get their money back).
 
dodge freak said:
I tell you though, if i was that car owner I would be screaming--how do we know if just that door is from that stolen car? Heck my car has different doors on it, old ones had some rust so i got some rust free doors.

yeah the rivets on the vin might be changed, still. The vin could had just been removed for restoration and put back on. Lots of stuff could have happen since 1995

well not my problem.
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Dodge freak I am certain that the "door VIN" was not the only one checked. 69 Camaro's also had the VIN stamped under the cowl screen and in the firewall behind the heater box.
~Michael
 
And here's a twist on this. Back in the 80's I met a guy that had been pulled over on Rt80 in NJ. He had a body shop and just rebuilt a nice Vette for a driver. He was pulled over and the car impounded, it seems some of the panels had different ID's (vin #s ?) I didn't get the whole story then. Anyway he went to court to get it back, he had all the reciepts for the car. The judge awarded it to him, one problem..it was stolen from the cops impound yard! I had given him a ride home after he went to retrieve it. I worked behind the State Police Barracks. He did eventually get a judgement against them, but no car. Amazing!
 
In the early 90's i knew this cool guy who lived in Detroit--we went to college together. He had a 80's mustang and got a newer mustang engine for it. I rode in it and it was fast. He was on 8 mile--the border between Detroit and the suburbs, some white officers pulled him over--he was black, I'm white btw, they started hassling him and checked everything out, once they run the vin on the engine they took his whole car away from him.

Screwed him all up, he went from being a fun cool guy to dull and down. I lost contact with him after that...yeah he knew the engine was stolen but gee, I never ever had a cop check my engine vin numbers.
 
first off it's sucks to lose a car like that but think about how it sucked for the first guy to lose it to a thief , If it was me I would find the guy I bought it from and talk to him in a dark place one night about returning my money then I would let the same cops who came to my door know where he was and publicly embarrass them if they refused to go after him the way they came for me , that way sooner or later it works it's way back to the thief . Remember that the next time some one shows up out of the blue with a killer deal on something -you might end up providing the items for his next sale
 
But it might not had been a killer deal. He brought it off ebay 4--5 years ago when things were going good. Likely lots of people were bidding on it and he bid the highest.

Yeah it would stink to have your car stolen, why I don't like too much popping my hood open and showing off the dual carbs--somebody might try to sell them.

These old cars can be easy to steal. Alarms work sometimes, depends on how good the thief's are. And then you got the good old car jacking bit where they take your keys right from you.
 
What did he pay $16k and then buddy sunk another $10k and the orig owner is going to get it back in shape??? Shouldnt be much more to do having $26k into it...
 
dodge freak said:
These old cars can be easy to steal. Alarms work sometimes, depends on how good the thief's are. And then you got the good old car jacking bit where they take your keys right from you.
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I had my keys stolen at my bar. I had an extra ignition key but no trunk key. I went to Blaine Lock and Key and told him what happened and asked if he had any magic he could work. He walked to the wall, selected a key blank, grabbed a stool and walked out to my Dart. He sat down on the stool and put the key in the trunk lock, pulled it out and looked at it and started hand filing. He put it in, pulled it out and filed some more. Four times he filed, then he puts it in, turns the key and opens the trunk. Asks me how many copies I want. It took him 2 or 3 minutes ... by hand. Think what a trained thief could do in one night. If they want your car, they are going to have it. They had better not start mine up in my yard because I will hear it, and I am well armed.
 
two victims....thats the bottom line...two people in love with the same girl....somebody's gonna go home empty handed..the laws arent put together for the victim.....much less two victims, take lots of pictures of your restoration and make permanent flaws in your works for later identification if this should happen to you,i lost my 70 gran coupe cuda to thieves back in the 80's and have never wanted one since...I also lost my job over the deal...my boss got his *** jacked up against the wall and a nice time in jail but I never got my car back....you know them shrivels of metal that come from a set of metal shears??? thats what got him nailed...he shoulda never told me to sweep the shop and ya'll know i'm not above pushin a broom..my heart skipped a beat when I seen my red piece of cuda roll across the floor,I knew where my leather seats and all the work I had done had gone too....it cost me a lunch at wendys to git his *** beat to a pulp.....state police....didnt cost a penny.....I'd love to post his name for what he did to me, he got a worse *** beatin than he gave me, yea i got my *** beat when I confronted him...so?......don't ever mess with my cars! if ya need my car just ask,if ya need a part just ask DO NOT EVER mess with my cars, just ask
 
Mopar to ya said:
I had my keys stolen at my bar. I had an extra ignition key but no trunk key. I went to Blaine Lock and Key and told him what happened and asked if he had any magic he could work. He walked to the wall, selected a key blank, grabbed a stool and walked out to my Dart. He sat down on the stool and put the key in the trunk lock, pulled it out and looked at it and started hand filing. He put it in, pulled it out and filed some more. Four times he filed, then he puts it in, turns the key and opens the trunk. Asks me how many copies I want. It took him 2 or 3 minutes ... by hand. Think what a trained thief could do in one night. If they want your car, they are going to have it. They had better not start mine up in my yard because I will hear it, and I am well armed.
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Before you start shootin, you might want to check the local/state laws on that. You might end up in jail or paying the thief a **** load of money (and still get your car in the lawsuit).
 

1970Duster said:
Before you start shootin, you might want to check the local/state laws on that. You might end up in jail or paying the thief a **** load of money (and still get your car in the lawsuit).
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You don't always need to shoot. The fear factor works just as well. But remember ... the average 911 response time in the US is 23 minutes. The response time of My Sig P226 9mm is 1531 feet per second.
 
Mopar to ya said:
You don't always need to shoot. The fear factor works just as well. But remember ... the average 911 response time in the US is 23 minutes. The response time of My Sig P226 9mm is 1531 feet per second.
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Oh yeah I know, my fires at 2300 feet per second but I shoot to kill (don't ever give your enemy a second chance, hell not even a first chance if you help it).
 
old tired rebel said:
Seems like this happens a lot more often. There was a man in Myrtle Beach SC had his 71 Hemi Challenger stolen that his grandfather bought new. Several owners had gone through and had new data plates made reflecting the changes. The FBI was the ones who found it and returned it. Sadly it wasn't original any more.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=397947&page=1
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Hey Cliff, the article says it was a 440 six pack '71 Challenger, not a Hemi.
 
Mopar to ya said:
You don't always need to shoot. The fear factor works just as well. But remember ... the average 911 response time in the US is 23 minutes. The response time of My Sig P226 9mm is 1531 feet per second.
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No way, that cause 80% or more of 911 calls are not really 911 calls

Go in some shopping plaza and fire off a gun in to the air and see if it takes the police 23 mins to response, more like 2 or 3 mins max. With cell phones the police are notify fast now, once a FEW 911 calls come in, watch out, the police will totally out power you
 
The bad thing for the prior owner is this......he don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of gettin his "upgrades" back. Anybody that knows anothing about the legal system can tell you that. His upgrades become part of the "real property" which is the car. He's SOL.
 
1970Duster said:
First off you can't secretly record people without telling/informing them that you're recording the conversion. That's a lawsuit in itself. .
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Not totally true.

Up here in the great white north. You can legally record a conversation as long as you have one willing party in the conversation. So yourself could be the one willing party to record the conversation.
Loop hole in the law that most people do not realize.

Also depends how the judge interprets the law. One judge may say its red but the other may say its moulin rouge and throw it out.
 
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