I live by about 1 hr away been to them a couple times. Very hard on rear axels alot of broken ones. When you put 600 to 700 studs into the tires theres more bite than you think. No spinning. They tried to get it televised on ESPN a couple times but never work for them. Guess a bunch of crazy basturds standing on ice in below zero weather is to much with a cold beer. We do have an ice oval racing every weekend to they go to a different lake plow an oval and go racing.