Methods to remove rust from parts

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So I have a bunch of jack parts, hooks,hold down rods and nuts, mainly. They are very rusty. I've used molasses before with good results but was wondering if there is something more effective. Most parts are for a 67-69 Dart.
 
I've had great results from good old white vinegar. Soak for a day or three, take it out, brush it off and rinse with baking soda and water solution. Cheap and effective.
 

Vinegar for earache...how does that work

White vinegar, like in the gallon bottle at the supermarket.

For swimmer's ear and similar otitis externa problems (not for otitis media, or internal ear infections).
Especially for kids who swim and keep getting infections.

Put vinegar in a dropper bottle (an old bottle of Visene or any other eye or ear drops, rinsed out), put a few drops in before swimming, a few more after drying off.

Prevents (and often treats) otitis externa.
It's acidic. Bacteria and fungi can't grow, no infection.
It's harmless. You can drink it.
It's cheap. Buck and a half a gallon or something.

No downside.

– Eric
 
Canada tire used to sell evapo-rust, I see they don't any more (at least in Ontario). They have POR15 rust remover (1 qt for $14) and Blaster (1 gallon $48). I de-rusted the inside of my gas tank using several gallons of "cleaning vinegar" (which is 10% acetic acid) and electrolysis (running a current between a floating electrode and the tank wall). Cleaning vinegar, even at 10% (twice the strength of ordinary vinegar) will take a while but if you're not in a hurry and can leave the parts in a bucket for a week then that's going to be the cheapest way. 2.5L cleaning vinegar sold at the grocery store can be 4-5 CanBux.

White vinegar is I think the same strength (5% acetic acid) as pickling vinegar. Cleaning vinegar is 10%. I use cleaning vinegar instead of carpet cleaner in a Bissell carpet cleaner when cleaning my (home) carpets.

I've tried citric acid, I bought a large-ish bag off amazon almost 2 years ago (you can't buy it useful quantities at retail) you have to mix A LOT of it into water to create a concentrated solution, it's not cost-effective and it's a weak acid. I did an electrolysis test on a rusted lawnmower blade comparing 10% vinegar to concentrated citric acid - the vinegar worked better.

I bought a pint of molassas but have never tried it. I'm not sure you (or I) can buy molassas in useful quantities at retail in Canada. There's 2 different molassas I think, one is expensive (used in cooking?) and one is cheap (used for horses?). They say that Evporust uses molassas as a chelating agent.

I don't know where you can buy phosphoric acid in 1-liter or 1-gallon quantity at retail in Canada (or really in any size).

Muriatic acid (pool shock, aka HCL hydrochloric acid) might still be commonly available in 1-gallon jugs, not too expensive, I have one or two of those, but using it to de-rust is questionable. Yes it will work but will also eat your part and leave the surface in a brittle state, also you'll get flash rusting when you wash it off. It will stink and give off fumes.
 
I've tried citric acid, I bought a large-ish bag off amazon almost 2 years ago (you can't buy it useful quantities at retail) you have to mix A LOT of it into water to create a concentrated solution, it's not cost-effective and it's a weak acid.
What was the mixture ratio you used for the citric acid? I use about 125g per gallon of tap water (30:1 by weight). It takes a couple 2-3 days, but it's worked great for me. I especially like it for large items where cost and disposal can be an issue. I posted some photos from when I soaked my decklid. It removed all of the rust between the inner decklid and frame structure with no effort.

Inner Panel Rust Treatment - Decklid

I don't know where you can buy phosphoric acid in 1-liter or 1-gallon quantity at retail in Canada (or really in any size).

Try a product called Klean Strip Concrete & Metal Prep. It's less than $20 a gallon at the hardware store and basically the same thing as Ospho.
 
Cleaning vinegar, even at 10% (twice the strength of ordinary vinegar) will take a while but if you're not in a hurry and can leave the parts in a bucket for a week then that's going to be the cheapest way. 2.5L cleaning vinegar sold at the grocery store can be 4-5 CanBux.

In the US, we can get 30% acetic acid from the "big box" stores for $20 a gallon.

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I'm not sure you (or I) can buy molassas in useful quantities at retail in Canada. There's 2 different molassas I think, one is expensive (used in cooking?) and one is cheap (used for horses?).

Not for horses. Look up "colic." For cows, though.
Here's 200 pounds of it in a 24 gallon bucket for $120.

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They say that Evporust uses molassas as a chelating agent.

Interesting. I'd like to know more about that.


I don't know where you can buy phosphoric acid in 1-liter or 1-gallon quantity at retail in Canada (or really in any size).

The usual places have phosphoric acid here for about $18 a gallon here.


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– Eric

edit: looks like "great" minds thinking alike again.
 
We have a much more sparse retail product landscape in Canada, and it gets worse by the year. We've just lost the "Peavey-Mart" retail chain across Canada. Peavey Mart existed in western Canada and bought maybe 8 years ago the Canadian operations of TSC (which I'm not sure was the Can. arm of the US-based Tractor Supply). The only place I can think of around here where you would have been able to buy that huge bucket of molasses would have been Peavey Mart (but I've never seen them there). They are (were) the place to go to for farm supply stuff. I would love to buy 30% acetic acid, nobody sells it here. Same with the Kleen strip.
 
Interesting. I'd like to know more about that.

I might have gotten that mixed up. They say both molasses and evaporust contain chelating agents, specifically EDTA in evaporust. I don't know if EDTA is also in molasses. Here's a useful thread on the topic:

 
What do you guys think of the Lanolin? Oil? Grease? Used for undercoating for prevention after rust treatment?
 
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