This weld is actually a vertical weld(out of position)i wish i had a rotiserie, i figured beings i didnt, knowing how to weld out of position was a good thing. Ive mastered stitch welding sheet metal, low warpage and 100% penetration If anyone has any questions about welding feel free to ask. I taught my fiance to weld in about an hour...(this is not a typical learning curve though hehe) When it comes to welding ive welded it all from regular ol' cast iron with nickel or ni-cad rod to manganese, magnesium, titanium, stainless, aluminum, t-1, ni-hard, stellite rod, hardfacing, etc. Anything from .023 mig to 5/16" mig and everything in between. 22 guage steel to 4" plate. Prepping and preheating aluminum, cast iron and t1 steel etc. Its easy if you know what not to do. When it comes to mig welding c-25 is the key.