New Quaker State Oil w/ Zinc

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High-zinc motor oil
29/11/11




Quaker State has developed a new motor oil, specifically for high-output, flat-tappet engines. Quaker State Defy contains a high level of ZDDP, an anti-wear additive commonly referred to as zinc, which combats friction, wear and oxidation. “We as an industry have seen the levels of zinc in motor oil consistently reduced in each successive gasoline engine specification implemented by ILSAC in the past few years,” says Jeff Hsu, Quaker State technology specialist. “This reduction of zinc is fine for drivers of newer vehicles, but is leaving classic car owners, enthusiasts and those with flat-tappet cams and followers with fewer and fewer options in the motor oil category.” He says the proprietary low-volatility ZDDP technology used in Quaker State Defy motor oil significantly reduces the amount of volatile phosphorus, while retaining its anti-wear protective behavior and antioxidant performance. An additional benefit of the new, fully formulated Quaker State Defy motor oil is that it is capable of running a full manufacturer-recommended drain interval during engine break-in and does not need to be drained after five hundred or a thousand miles, like some high-zinc break-in oils. Quaker State Defy is also intended for use in higher-mileage passenger vehicle engines, and helps control the wear that high-mileage engines typically endure.

www.QuakerState.com
 
sweet when is this available? and were to get it.I add comp cams break in additive every oil change that bottle is 18 bucks .
 
This is some good news for all us solid lift engine owners
Like Snake said When and where
 
According to Quaker State's website it will be available in the US in January, and Canada in April.

Bill S.
 
What is this ZDDP zinc stuff? I have a roller cam, roller lifters and run full synthetic so I unfamiliar with the reason to be glad over this news (hint hint).
 
Hey all,
AMSOIL has been making synthetis for years. They have had an oil on the market now for about a year called Z-Rod. It comes in 10W-30 & 20W-50 grades. AMSOIL Z-ROD™ Synthetic Motor Oil is specially engineered for classic and high-performance vehicles. It features a high-zinc formulation to prevent wear on flat-tappet camshafts and other critical engine components, along with a proprietary blend of rust and corrosion inhibitors for added protection during long-term storage. Z-ROD Synthetic Motor Oil is designed to perform on the street and protect during storage.

Here is the information and pricing for this oil:
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/zrt.aspx

1970 Duster
The main reason for the high levels of ZDDP is to protect flat-tappet cams, lifters, rockers and other areas susceptible to wear. Its high-zinc, high-phosphorus formulation provides the extra wear protection these critical splash-lubricated components require. Your roller style valve assy dosen't produce as much heat and friction as the old style does hence the reason for the ZDDP.
 
Snake said:
sweet when is this available? and were to get it.I add comp cams break in additive every oil change that bottle is 18 bucks .
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Seriously? I havent been doing that, so maybe I should? I didnt think it was necessary after break in,10 yrs ago, ive been running Napa 20w50 synthetic.
 
TAZLDAZL said:
Hey all,
AMSOIL has been making synthetis for years. They have had an oil on the market now for about a year called Z-Rod. It comes in 10W-30 & 20W-50 grades. AMSOIL Z-ROD™ Synthetic Motor Oil is specially engineered for classic and high-performance vehicles. It features a high-zinc formulation to prevent wear on flat-tappet camshafts and other critical engine components, along with a proprietary blend of rust and corrosion inhibitors for added protection during long-term storage. Z-ROD Synthetic Motor Oil is designed to perform on the street and protect during storage.

Here is the information and pricing for this oil:
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/zrt.aspx

1970 Duster
The main reason for the high levels of ZDDP is to protect flat-tappet cams, lifters, rockers and other areas susceptible to wear. Its high-zinc, high-phosphorus formulation provides the extra wear protection these critical splash-lubricated components require. Your roller style valve assy dosen't produce as much heat and friction as the old style does hence the reason for the ZDDP.
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Yeah I know what it's for/does but for the cost per bottle, the long run makes really wanna look at a roller setup. I'm saying this more towards guys building their motors right now and the guys looking to upgrade to a different/better cam, just trying to say take a HARD look in the roller cam setup (be it solid or hyd.). :burnout:
Coyote Jack said:
I think 1970Duster was being a little sarcastic.

Jack
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Yep you hit the nail on the head with that one :twisted:
 
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Was only trying to help.

I am curious on what they are going to charge/qrt though.

I'm with you on the roller set up though. It is definatley a better way to go.

TAZZ
 
1970Duster said:
What is this ZDDP zinc stuff? I have a roller cam, roller lifters and run full synthetic so I unfamiliar with the reason to be glad over this news (hint hint).
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Recently tore up my T&D rocker shafts - after maybe 1500 miles. Full roller set up using their rockers and shafts. T&Ds only comment was - wrong oil!!! They specify high zinc oil for their roller systems... I've been using Mobil1 15W-50 with 1200ppm phosphorus and 1300 ppm zinc (highest of all the Mobil 1 oils)!! Been trying to get their "spec" to compare but unable to so far. Last I knew 1300ppm was in the "high zinc" range.. :(
 
That is in the upper range on both limits for PPMS,The best budget oil I found was Valvoline Vr1 20/50.It holds about 1200 phosfo/1400 zinc.About five bucks a qt.
 
Abodybomber said:
That is in the upper range on both limits for PPMS,The best budget oil I found was Valvoline Vr1 20/50.It holds about 1200 phosfo/1400 zinc.About five bucks a qt.
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My post was a bit tongue in cheek. The fact that T&D insisted that the shaft damage was due to low zinc levels - in Mobil 1 15W50 - and that high zinc levels are really needed for roller rockers....
 
Really ANY performance engine should use a racing type oil with plenty of zddp or similar additive package. With strokers you have alot of thrust on the cylinder walls and good oil will prevent any scuffing or premature wear from happening.
I agree with TD, roller or not your quality components NEED quality oil with plenty of scuff additive!!
Brian
 
You guy can always use royal purple, you know they make good stuff
 
1970Duster said:
You guy can always use royal purple, you know they make good stuff
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I'm not going to say its true or not but there is some hardcore Chevy guys down the road from me that will never use it again. They do local drag races, build motors, paint cars, etc... I talked to the owner and he swears royal purple ruined two of his motors. One was a big block.

I cant understand why oil companies cant just make a non-syn oil like they did back in the old days when oil was absolutely full of zinc and not charge a arm and leg.
 
Done Swimmin said:
Post on Abodies



High-zinc motor oil
29/11/11




Quaker State has developed a new motor oil, specifically for high-output, flat-tappet engines. Quaker State Defy contains a high level of ZDDP, an anti-wear additive commonly referred to as zinc, which combats friction, wear and oxidation. “We as an industry have seen the levels of zinc in motor oil consistently reduced in each successive gasoline engine specification implemented by ILSAC in the past few years,” says Jeff Hsu, Quaker State technology specialist. “This reduction of zinc is fine for drivers of newer vehicles, but is leaving classic car owners, enthusiasts and those with flat-tappet cams and followers with fewer and fewer options in the motor oil category.” He says the proprietary low-volatility ZDDP technology used in Quaker State Defy motor oil significantly reduces the amount of volatile phosphorus, while retaining its anti-wear protective behavior and antioxidant performance. An additional benefit of the new, fully formulated Quaker State Defy motor oil is that it is capable of running a full manufacturer-recommended drain interval during engine break-in and does not need to be drained after five hundred or a thousand miles, like some high-zinc break-in oils. Quaker State Defy is also intended for use in higher-mileage passenger vehicle engines, and helps control the wear that high-mileage engines typically endure.

www.QuakerState.com
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Just found this post and looked up quaker state Defy motor oil...$43.00 a quart???
 
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