Problem with Inline tube parking brake set.

[Bob Jasinski]

I purchased a BSA 6301 kit (106" wheelbase) for my '65 Barracuda FS in late 2020. Finally got the car back from body and paint work about 6 mos. ago, just got the dash installed so I could mount the park brake system (pull handle bolts to the dash). I've come to find out that the front cable fits, the intermediate cable fits, but the two rear cables to the drums are too short. The cable itself seems to be the right length, but the cable sheath is longer than the original by about 3/4", so this causes the effective cable length to be too short by 3/4", meaning 1-1/2" too short overall when adding in both sides. The intermediate cable cannot reach the connection to the front cable, even when the adjusters are turned all the way down. The picture below illustrates the issue. I've contacted Inline Tube and they are not willing to do anything about the problem except to modify the cables for $90 EACH. New rear cables are $45 each. Basically he acts like its my problem and I waited too long. I agree its been a while, but it sounds like they are still selling the same parts now. Has anyone else had this issue with an Inline tube parking cable set? My car is all original and I still have the cables that came with the car. Basically he's telling me to just by new cables and if they don't fit to return them. I've had other issues with Inline tube and I'm not a happy camper. Anyone out there run into this issue with the early Barracudas or Valiants? Also notice the cable end balls are larger than stock, I had to open up the underside holders a bit to get them through. So much for "exactly like originals". This is the problem when you buy parts too early.

 

[Dana67Dart]

I have to agree that 5 years is a bit long, BUT I do think Inline should stand behind their products, there might be resellers out there who's stock is 5 years old and have the same part with the same issue.

Maybe they fixed the problem and their newer stock is correct.

I don't condone this but. Buy new versions and then return them (wink wink)

You might get more traction if you post on their facebook page. Leave out the 5 year part.

You did by side photos explain things perfect.

If possible have both cables as straight as they can be, because it can be argued that the differences might be an optical illusion. 2 curved objects these length can look different when placed inside each other

Good luck and keep sharing the issues. Manufacturers are not going to do anything till it starts to hurt them in the pocket book.

 

[MMissile]

I live locally to them. I haven't purchased anything from them, in my last 5-6 car builds. They have the "you need us, we don't need you" customer assistance attitude. When you dealt with the guy in the warehouse, things were very easy. Then they got all big-time.

 

[Bob Jasinski]

I have to agree that 5 years is a bit long, BUT I do think Inline should stand behind their products, there might be resellers out there who's stock is 5 years old and have the same part with the same issue.

Maybe they fixed the problem and their newer stock is correct.

I don't condone this but. Buy new versions and then return them (wink wink)

You might get more traction if you post on their facebook page. Leave out the 5 year part.

You did by side photos explain things perfect.

If possible have both cables as straight as they can be, because it can be argued that the differences might be an optical illusion. 2 curved objects these length can look different when placed inside each other

Good luck and keep sharing the issues. Manufacturers are not going to do anything till it starts to hurt them in the pocket book.

Dana, The original cable was/is very difficult to straighten for the picture. The lack of fit tells the real story as I couldn't find any difference in lengths of the front or intermediate cables. My next step is to clean up and reinstall my original rear cables. If they fit right that proves that the Inline tube cables are the problem. Perhaps someone with a '65 Barracuda that has installed new Inline cables will come forward and confirm or deny my theory. I get that over 4 years is a long time, but I would think they would be interested in knowing if the fit is right and exactly where the real problem lies. The new ones simply cannot be used on my car without modifications, I'm convinced of that.

 

[Inertia]

To save a buncha hassle, could you simply move the coupler back a bit but using this "coupling nut" to extend your front cable a bit.
I've done similar when adjuster nut breaks the threaded section, just add a small section of all thread and a coupler nut.
I've known folk order a whole cable cuz they lost an inch off the threaded section, go figure .
Paint it all black, most folk would never notice.
Disregard price, most hardware outlets have them for a coupla bucks each.

https://www.amazon.com/Hillman-Group-180216-Coupling-16-Inch/dp/B003VFZLSM?tag=fabo03-20

They come in many sizes/threads.
Good luck

 

[Inertia]

Dana, The original cable was/is very difficult to straighten for the picture. The lack of fit tells the real story as I couldn't find any difference in lengths of the front or intermediate cables. My next step is to clean up and reinstall my original rear cables. If they fit right that proves that the Inline tube cables are the problem. Perhaps someone with a '65 Barracuda that has installed new Inline cables will come forward and confirm or deny my theory. I get that over 4 years is a long time, but I would think they would be interested in knowing if the fit is right and exactly where the real problem lies. The new ones simply cannot be used on my car without modifications, I'm convinced of that.

I've swapped a buncha small diffs to bigger, and I can tell you I often have to use the cables from the "vehicle" diff cuz of small differences as yours ,

Good luck

 

[Bob Jasinski]

Following up on this thread to share what I ended up doing. First off, let me say my beef with Inline Tube is not that they wouldn't refund my money, I realize the cable set was bought in Nov 2020, so I get it. They insisted it was my problem, not theirs and that stated that they made NO changes to the cables since I received mine, therefore the cable I would get from them now would be the same exact thing, which I know does not fit. Since my original cables were in good shape, I decided to media blast my old pair, paint, lubricate, and install them. They fit perfect and it proves to me that their cables ARE the problem. I really wanted to work with them so that others didn't have the same issue, but they have an attitude that they are "all knowing" about the parts they sell, well they aren't.

I suppose it is possible that Chrysler may have made a manufacturing change along the way, but my '65 was built 12/14/64, so it's not a late car. However, I looked up these cables in my '65 parts book (Published March '66) and there is a * next to the part number (same L /R Dart & Valiant) and down below it says "use as required". I really don't know what that means, but it does interject the possibility that there could be some differences in cables for these cars. I would think Inline would like to get to the bottom of the problem, but evidently it's not that important to them. I have a pair of new cables here I can't use, maybe someone else can.

 

[Dana67Dart]

Have you sent them your photos?

 

[Dana67Dart]

Maybe someone going to Carlyle can stir up something for you.

Nothing better than bad press.

Truly I'm having second thoughts about buying from them.

 

[Dana67Dart]

Inline Tube | Shelby Township MI

 

[Dana67Dart]

This reminds me of an issue I had with dales cuda shop Corbin clamps for small block Mopar.

They supply 2 large clamps that fit perfect on available hoses that are 1.5" id and 2 large clamps that are sized for 1.75 id hose.

And 2 clamps for the bypass those that are way too big.

I brought it to their attention and they told me that are correct for the application.

I pointed out that that OEM hoses may have been larger OD then available hoses today and their kit should fit hoses that are available.

Basically told me told me to go pound sand.

I bought a set from another company and as luck would have it it was a dales product. Same mis-sized clamps.

But now I had 4 that fit 1.5 hose and I ordered some from mcmster carr for the bypass.

 

[85glht]

To save a buncha hassle, could you simply move the coupler back a bit but using this "coupling nut" to extend your front cable a bit.
I've done similar when adjuster nut breaks the threaded section, just add a small section of all thread and a coupler nut.
I've known folk order a whole cable cuz they lost an inch off the threaded section, go figure .
Paint it all black, most folk would never notice.
Disregard price, most hardware outlets have them for a coupla bucks each.

https://www.amazon.com/Hillman-Group-180216-Coupling-16-Inch/dp/B003VFZLSM?tag=fabo03-20

They come in many sizes/threads.
Good luck

I did this! Easy to do and doesn't cost much

 

[Bob Jasinski]

I did this! Easy to do and doesn't cost much

I am well aware of this "fix". I would do this to get by, in fact I bought a coupling nut to see if the cables would stretch to fit once I got them connected to the equalizer, but they didn't. I'm restoring this car to a high level of quality, and the coupling nut is just a "bandaid" around the problem.

 

[Bob Jasinski]

Have you sent them your photos?

Yes, the same photos I posted in #1. Just want to add that I am very appreciative to have vendors that make parts for our vintage cars, and I understand that issues can and do happen. That's why I brought it to their attention, I hope they will look into the matter. I still would like to hear back from someone on the list that bought these cables and have successfully installed them, without a coupler nut.

 

[Dana67Dart]

I get inline tube face book posts we all need to make comments in their page about the cable not fitting and show the photos proof

 

[85glht]

I am well aware of this "fix". I would do this to get by, in fact I bought a coupling nut to see if the cables would stretch to fit once I got them connected to the equalizer, but they didn't. I'm restoring this car to a high level of quality, and the coupling nut is just a "bandaid" around the problem.

The cables will probably stretch... I have had to tighten my "fix" already and I am bottoming out... I will probably be able to remove my "fix" if it stretches a little more... Just trying to help here

 

[Bob Jasinski]

The cables will probably stretch... I have had to tighten my "fix" already and I am bottoming out... I will probably be able to remove my "fix" if it stretches a little more... Just trying to help here

Yes, the cables will stretch a bit but not that much. Once they have a certain amount of pressure on them the length remains consistent. I reused the original intermediate cable because it was in good shape, the cable balls matched the original connector (repro cable balls are larger diameter) to fit the original rear brake cable end balls. Kept the factory equalizer, the repro equalizer was narrow and I didn't care for it (bottom picture). My rear drums and brake shoes are all new. At this point, the factory setup fits just right, the nut goes on, fully engaging the threads and allowing plenty of adjustment for wear. I was able to use the front repro cable and had no issues with it.