Prolube oil additive

[melcardona]

Not true.


Also not true.


Still not true.

oh so true....lines up with true...its still true!!!!! LOLOLOLWAAAAAAAAA

 

[S'cuder]

oh so true....lines up with true...its still true!!!!! LOLOLOLWAAAAAAAAA

Ignorance is bliss so laugh all you want.

I have first hand knowledge that Roger Penske, Eddie Hill, Dick Lahaie, Richie Evans and Jim Oddy, all Hall of Famers, all used Pennzoil. Maybe not all million dollar teams, but Roger has been a billionaire for decades. I know this because either they were my oil customers, who we sponsored, or they stopped at our office to pick up sponsorship oil. Usually on their way to Sanair Speedway. Michael Waltrip and Whit Bazemore used to stop in too, but they're not Hall of Famers. But Bill Jenkins is, and when my brother-in-law worked out of the Philly office, he delivered Grumpy's sponsorship oil.

Jim Oddy had a deal with Redline. He painted up his Pro Mod all nice, but he wouldn't use it in his race engines. He bought Pennzoil for that.

I once took an empty Pennzoil 20W-50 bottle from the pits at Pocono after I'd seen a crewman pour it into Penske's Indy car. I asked him for it and he kicked it over to me on the other side of the rope. I took the bottle to the office on Monday and called Oil City to get the batch information from the number printed on the bottom of the bottom. This was 37 years ago, so I don't remember the number, but the batch size was around 20,000 gallons. A big number indicating it was the everyday oil on the shelf in the store. If it was some special batch, it would have been several hundred gallons or at most a couple thousand.

This was all in the '80s and '90s, right when your friend claimed to know that all the teams used Valvoline because they were the only company to spend millions on research and development.

In that time period, Valvoline was a division of Ashland Oil in Kentucky. They were fighting for 5th place in US passenger car motor oil market share with Castrol. Pennzoil, Quaker State, Havoline and Mobil were in the first four positions. Every couple of years, in a desperate attempt to gain market share, Valvoline would cut their prices significantly. They would take fifth place, and crawl to within spitting distance of being number four before stalling out. Having slashed their throat to get there, they were in an unsustainable position. So, they raised their prices to where they needed to be, and fell back to 5th or 6th place.

None of the above is surprising, because Valvoline was really a marketing company. They managed to get people to believe their product, a low mid-level oil, was a premium lube. The truth was, as discovered through testing and analysis by our company that spent millions on research and development, it was just a Group l base stock with the low-level additive package from Lubrizol. Nothing special at all. We sold a chemically identical product as Wolf's Head, our entry level, bargain priced brand. Wolf's Head had been bought out in the 1960s, and operated as a sister company to Pennzoil, sharing some production facilities in and around Oil City, PA. Around 1990 we started selling it side by side with Pennzoil.

So there you have it from an insider. Maybe Valvoline had some sort of special secret sauce they gave to their race teams on the side. Don't know, don't care. The only things that remain from that company is their logos and slogans. I just know they sold chicken **** and told everyone it was chicken salad.

 

[Datsun78]

I had never heard of it before yesterday. Picked up my '15 Durango with Pentastar V6 and 115,000 miles, regular scheduled oil changes, after dreaded lifter tick took out one of the cams. Shop owner that repaired it HIGHLY recommended Prolube as additive and has been using it for years in all his motors, transmissions, etc. Greatly reduced wear, per him. I haven't decided on what to do yet.

 

[melcardona]

Ignorance is bliss so laugh all you want.

I have first hand knowledge that Roger Penske, Eddie Hill, Dick Lahaie, Richie Evans and Jim Oddy, all Hall of Famers, all used Pennzoil. Maybe not all million dollar teams, but Roger has been a billionaire for decades. I know this because either they were my oil customers, who we sponsored, or they stopped at our office to pick up sponsorship oil. Usually on their way to Sanair Speedway. Michael Waltrip and Whit Bazemore used to stop in too, but they're not Hall of Famers. But Bill Jenkins is, and when my brother-in-law worked out of the Philly office, he delivered Grumpy's sponsorship oil.

Jim Oddy had a deal with Redline. He painted up his Pro Mod all nice, but he wouldn't use it in his race engines. He bought Pennzoil for that.

I once took an empty Pennzoil 20W-50 bottle from the pits at Pocono after I'd seen a crewman pour it into Penske's Indy car. I asked him for it and he kicked it over to me on the other side of the rope. I took the bottle to the office on Monday and called Oil City to get the batch information from the number printed on the bottom of the bottom. This was 37 years ago, so I don't remember the number, but the batch size was around 20,000 gallons. A big number indicating it was the everyday oil on the shelf in the store. If it was some special batch, it would have been several hundred gallons or at most a couple thousand.

This was all in the '80s and '90s, right when your friend claimed to know that all the teams used Valvoline because they were the only company to spend millions on research and development.

In that time period, Valvoline was a division of Ashland Oil in Kentucky. They were fighting for 5th place in US passenger car motor oil market share with Castrol. Pennzoil, Quaker State, Havoline and Mobil were in the first four positions. Every couple of years, in a desperate attempt to gain market share, Valvoline would cut their prices significantly. They would take fifth place, and crawl to within spitting distance of being number four before stalling out. Having slashed their throat to get there, they were in an unsustainable position. So, they raised their prices to where they needed to be, and fell back to 5th or 6th place.

None of the above is surprising, because Valvoline was really a marketing company. They managed to get people to believe their product, a low mid-level oil, was a premium lube. The truth was, as discovered through testing and analysis by our company that spent millions on research and development, it was just a Group l base stock with the low-level additive package from Lubrizol. Nothing special at all. We sold a chemically identical product as Wolf's Head, our entry level, bargain priced brand. Wolf's Head had been bought out in the 1960s, and operated as a sister company to Pennzoil, sharing some production facilities in and around Oil City, PA. Around 1990 we started selling it side by side with Pennzoil.

So there you have it from an insider. Maybe Valvoline had some sort of special secret sauce they gave to their race teams on the side. Don't know, don't care. The only things that remain from that company is their logos and slogans. I just know is they sold chicken **** and told everyone it was chicken salad.

and your bla bla bla.....has nothing to do with the oe post...so the flavor you like is pa oil or what ever...the post was all about pro lube/ addatives...needed or not.......i said not.. if you use a good oil...the swelled heads on this site are like over priced mopar parts and cars.....plenty!!!!!

 

[4spdragtop]

Speaking of bla bla bla and the OP post. Be careful with YOUR bla bla bla, there's a LOT smarter people than you and what you think here. Hopefully someone left vagisil for you besides taking a dump under your tree.

and your bla bla bla.....has nothing to do with the oe post...so the flavor you like is pa oil or what ever...the post was all about pro lube/ addatives...needed or not.......i said not.. if you use a good oil...the swelled heads on this site are like over priced mopar parts and cars.....plenty!!!!!

 

[Newbomb Turk]

Speaking of bla bla bla and the OP post. Be careful with YOUR bla bla bla, there's a LOT smarter people than you and what you think here. Hopefully someone left vagisil besides taking a dump under your tree.

Truth!

When S’cuder is talking Im paying attention and taking notes. Half of what he posts (at least) is sticky quality.