Retirement idea, looking for advice and/or pitfalls.

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We've been talking with our financial advisor about my impending retirement (which may, or may not happen, on Memorial Day now, but that's a different story), and we're setting up a budget/plan for some big ticket and/or recurring items in the future. For example:

* Summer of 2025: Insulate and build-out the shed/shop, $25k
* Winter of 2025/2026: Remodel master bath, $50k
* Summer of 2026: Replace siding and windows....(etc, etc)

One of our budget items is titled "Jim's Annual "Toy Car" Allowance", and we're budgeting $20k/year for engines, tools, paint & body, new cars, etc. I underlined the last one because my wife asked me some particulars about it ("You're not going to be buying a new engine every year, are you?"), so here's the idea with this one, once I get the new shop set-up:

* I've only purchased one new car in my life up here in MN, as not only are new vehicles outraegously expensive, in my opinion, but I don't like to think about the Depreciation that occurs the second you drive one off the lot.
* Used vehicles up here rust out within a year or two. (Exaggeration? Sure, but you get the idea.)
* All of my other vehicles have been used and/or "previously owned", and they have come from "elsewhere" (Oklahoma, California, Nebraska, Oregon, and Georgia, to name a few).
* I like to drive. Not fly, but drive, as in Road Trips.
* I've got a pretty good handle on some vehicle's worth, and I've never gotten screwed (knock on wood), but I'm not an expert by any means.
* I've flipped a couple vehicles in the past, but only because on both occasions someone gave me an offer I couldn't refuse. (Insert scene from The Godfather here!)
* Used, older vehicles (50-60 year old A-Bodies?) can be worth a heckuva lot more here than they are in, say, California or Texas...

So this $25k/year budget line item is for me to just "play" with cars: Find a used one out in, say, New Mexcio, or Washington, and bring it back here, do a spit and polish on it, and then either drive it for a while, or flip it. I'm not looking to make a living at this, nor do I want to do it so often that I have get a Dealers license (I've been looking into this as well). I just want to keep busy on my time, see the world, meet some interesting people, drive some back roads, and maybe make a buck or two on the side (for beer or bait money).

What say y'all?

Jim
 
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Part time vehicle transportation? See the land on someone else's dime? Find someone else to remodel your bathroom or do it yourself. I know times are different now but we bought rental houses for less than 50K.
 
Part time vehicle transportation? See the land on someone else's dime? Find someone else to remodel your bathroom or do it yourself. I know times are different now but we bought rental houses for less than 50K.
We have a pretty good relationship with a contractor, and he's on-board with doing the things that I can't (bad knees and back). Example: We'll be stripping the existing bath down to the studs, but I no longer want to do the sheetrock, tile, floors, paint...

And (LOL!) you just reminded me of what my mother said when my father brought home a car that cost $15k years ago: "We built this entire house for less than that car cost! How can this be? Oy yoy yoy!"
 
If your financial advisor doesn't seem to balk at your budget, go for it. It can be adjusted if it's too little or too much. Are you old enough to draw Social Security yet? That, and still having to pay for health insurance are two important factors. My full retirement age was 66 1/2, and I waited until then to take SS. It made several hundred dollars difference, and to me was worth it. The last quarter I worked, I took my dividends from my 401K instead of reinvesting them like I always had, to pad the bank account until I reached 66 1/2 in February of 2024. If your advisor says he can provide you with the retirement income you need, get his/her small fee, and still make you money....you should be good to go. Mine says I need to spend more money, lol. I'm trying to do better. :) I met with him today to get an update since the election. All that is going great....and he asked me if I was doing ok with the amount of income they send us every month. I told him I had a new side gig that pays cash, and was doing great. He asked what I was doing. I told him (with a straight face) that when I see a 5 gallon plastic bucket or an empty plastic gas jug that has blown out of somebodies truck laying beside the interstate, I stop and pick them up to sell at the flea market. Told him I got $1 each for buckets and $5 or more out of gas jugs. He sat there for a few seconds, thinking about how many of those things one sees on the side of the interstates because some ding dong didn't tie them in, and wondering if it would really be profitable. I couldn't take it any longer and started laughing! I kinda dread seeing the fake financial report he makes up for me next time because I pulled that on him!
 
Its very easy to spend 20K a year on car hobby type things. You might be burning through that in less then 12 months and need to wait until the next year's 20k is allotted. But it is a nice big chunk of hobby money you will be loving it!!
 
I retired about 5 years ago at 65. I have been working part time since and I like it. I have found that I need a reason to get up in the morning. If you don’t have that you will probably die young. I am not saying that you need to keep working, but you need a purpose in life, even in retirement.

I found you can only do so many home projects before you burn out on that. The things you didn't want to do when you were working - you still don’t want to do them after you retire.

Sounds like you have the start of a plan. Spend some money while you can still enjoy it.

Most financial planners are pretty conservative. You probably don’t need a million bucks in the bank when you are 80 and wearing a drool bib. If you ran out of money, would you even notice?
 
If your financial advisor doesn't seem to balk at your budget, go for it. It can be adjusted if it's too little or too much. Are you old enough to draw Social Security yet? That, and still having to pay for health insurance are two important factors. My full retirement age was 66 1/2, and I waited until then to take SS. It made several hundred dollars difference, and to me was worth it. The last quarter I worked, I took my dividends from my 401K instead of reinvesting them like I always had, to pad the bank account until I reached 66 1/2 in February of 2024. If your advisor says he can provide you with the retirement income you need, get his/her small fee, and still make you money....you should be good to go. Mine says I need to spend more money, lol. I'm trying to do better. :) I met with him today to get an update since the election. All that is going great....and he asked me if I was doing ok with the amount of income they send us every month. I told him I had a new side gig that pays cash, and was doing great. He asked what I was doing. I told him (with a straight face) that when I see a 5 gallon plastic bucket or an empty plastic gas jug that has blown out of somebodies truck laying beside the interstate, I stop and pick them up to sell at the flea market. Told him I got $1 each for buckets and $5 or more out of gas jugs. He sat there for a few seconds, thinking about how many of those things one sees on the side of the interstates because some ding dong didn't tie them in, and wondering if it would really be profitable. I couldn't take it any longer and started laughing! I kinda dread seeing the fake financial report he makes up for me next time because I pulled that on him!
I just turned 60, and our financial advisor is the one who is recommending I retire, as he knows how hard I've worked and much I want "out". The plan is (or perhaps, "was") to get both my knees and my trigger finger fixed this year, while still employed (one deductible and all that), and then retire on Memorial Day and go on my wife's insurance. She's only 58, and she absolutely loves her job...

Except a couple weeks ago someone in Washington threw a curveball at us, as approximately one-half of her employer's budget comes from Government grants. And if she loses her job, I lose my future insurance....

We had a conference call with our financial advisor just this morning, and he's running some scenarios for us based on our current monthly spending, what we feel we will need (monthly) going forward, as well as Big Ticket/Bucket List items we sent him a week or so ago, including my $20k/annum "play money". When I brought up the ambiguousness and/or uncertainty of my wife's continued employment he simply said, "There's no guarantees about anything in Life", but based on our investment portfolio, and our returns, he said we'd "probably be" ok if both of us retired right now.

But then of course we'd have to buy health insurance for 5 years, until I qualify for Medicare, and I don't know that I want to do that.

Uncertainty and instability does not make for a clear path going forward.
 
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I say be a pimp.

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Yes, gets to be a delicate dance to get to 66 1/2. Getting on SS and Medicare Original (not Advantage) was a big turning point, Still costs lots and lots to live, let's hope some prices start coming down in the near future.
 
The health insurance was what held me back from retiring a lot earlier than I did. I went my whole life paying for health insurance and never even had a snotty nose. Then, in 2018 I ended up in the hospital for 2 weeks with a blood clot and some kind of crazy blood infection that they like to have never found. I figured out right quick that health insurance was definitely worth having! All that, and my part was $1200. It made me change my mind about working a few more years, even though I absolutely HATED the company that I worked for. When 2020 and Covid came along, having to work from home was my saving grace. I no longer had to be the answer man for people doing the same job as me, so that made it tolerable until 4-1-23. I wish you luck, and hopefully you can ride it out a tad bit longer until you see what happens with your wife's work.
 
I retired about 5 years ago at 65. I have been working part time since and I like it. I have found that I need a reason to get up in the morning. If you don’t have that you will probably die young. I am not saying that you need to keep working, but you need a purpose in life, even in retirement.

I found you can only do so many home projects before you burn out on that. The things you didn't want to do when you were working - you still don’t want to do them after you retire.

Sounds like you have the start of a plan. Spend some money while you can still enjoy it.

Most financial planners are pretty conservative. You probably don’t need a million bucks in the bank when you are 80 and wearing a drool bib. If you ran out of money, would you even notice?

This about nailed it perfectly IMO. I need purpose, and for all the hobbies I have, it’s not the same as doing something with purpose. And I’m sure that finishing the basement will not sound more fun in retirement than it does now.

My only recommendation would be to convince yourself that the plan is conservative enough for you, don’t take their word for it. You need to see for yourself how the variables effect the modeled outcome, and do a sensitivity analysis on those variables.

My wife, who is 3 years younger than me, will likely live to 95 or more, and likely need long term care. That’s nearly 35 years of living on retirement savings.
 
Can you go part time at your job, or find another part time to bridge the gap? It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. A couple extra days off can feel like retirement….
 
Start a small used car lot and drive autos for free. That's what a lot of guys do here in Indiana.

Tom
I had a small LLC for a number of years, and while I made some good money, I sold it back '20 so I could slow down and start "smelling the roses", as it were.

But if I could find an existing enterprise that thought along them same lines as me....

Hmmm! Something to think about, thank you!
 

What Say Ya'All ?

50k to remodel a bathroom ? Holy S**t !!!!!!

I say: Get new towels, bath rug, and call it a day !!!!!
We knew going-in when we bought the new place that the master bath needed work. Move a couple of walls, add heated tile flooring and a custom shower enclosure...it all adds up quick!
 
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If you use luxury vinyl tile flooring, it is warmer than tile. I have never had heated floors in the bathroom, but a friend says it costs as much as air conditioning to run, so they rarely use it.
 
The health insurance was what held me back from retiring a lot earlier than I did. I went my whole life paying for health insurance and never even had a snotty nose. Then, in 2018 I ended up in the hospital for 2 weeks with a blood clot and some kind of crazy blood infection that they like to have never found. I figured out right quick that health insurance was definitely worth having! All that, and my part was $1200. It made me change my mind about working a few more years, even though I absolutely HATED the company that I worked for. When 2020 and Covid came along, having to work from home was my saving grace. I no longer had to be the answer man for people doing the same job as me, so that made it tolerable until 4-1-23. I wish you luck, and hopefully you can ride it out a tad bit longer until you see what happens with your wife's work.
Thank you.

I don't hate the company I work for so much as the commute: 40-45 minutes on a good day, each way, with little traffic. But if there's a little snow, or a drop of rain...Hoo-Boy, we gonna be late for dinner!
 
Its very easy to spend 20K a year on car hobby type things. You might be burning through that in less then 12 months and need to wait until the next year's 20k is allotted. But it is a nice big chunk of hobby money you will be loving it!!
Agreed. The $20k is a "SWAG" number, and we (me, my wife, and our financial advisor) are all aware of this, but right now it feels like a reasonable number. Once I get a few years under my belt, if we find the need to adjust it we'll run the numbers again.

I've been thinking about this for years, and I'm pretty excited to begin this new chapter of my life!
 
I would say take the 20k or whatever the wife allows find a way to make more money off that and buy as much of whatever you want. do swap meets and trades etc. I buy parts that I may never use but one day Ill sell the stuff at a swap meet or on here. Parts are parts and someone will buy them.
 
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