Dusters have doubled in value since then, you could get a good duster for under ten k around 2020. No chance now. Chances of getting a v8 for 200 thats not cooked is very slim
Looking for advice. Want to build a Duster to run on a budget.
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Last year I had 2 225 slants left, complete , stand bore, good motors, cheap. I finally finally had a kid and his dad come for one, I gave him the other!! Glad to see it all go to a good home!
Yes bargains can be had, the best approach is travel to see parts, make friends, show a love for building a car! and be NICE!
I will add this. Find the most complete and most straight and most rust free builder you can find and afford, and be in reason for $ spent.
The classic car market is soft, yet so many want way more than a project will sell for. At least around here! Tons of overpriced projects for sale for way more than they will ever bring.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Just go ahead and burst my bubble why don’t ya.
How do you search results like that?
MidnightSwinger
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I actually had to burst my own bubble after disregarding the “too good to be true” mind set I usually have. That was one of my first searches after getting shafted by that guy with the 360 on here.Just go ahead and burst my bubble why don’t ya.
How do you search results like that?
That’s just a screen shot of that sellers market place profile! Every one of his ads is just that motor in a different city.
I admit to being an old guy, I try not to live in the Mopar world of the 90s, but fact is that supply of decent projects priced "correctly" in the market, keeps getting smaller and smaller. Like already said,decent Duster projects have really gotten higher and scarcer in the last 5-6 years for sure. And then there is the mentality of "I know what I have and the price ain't coming down!" at least around here.
Here in the South, out sheet metal outlives our engines. Good in a way, till you realize 99% of 60 year old cars have rust somewhere!!! And like said, finding a GOOD running engine is WAY harder than it used to be just a few years ago, and the good ones are more costly. Everything costs more!
Patience is always a key. Always be on the look. Always spend time making friends in the hobby. Find friends that are not into big blocks IF that is what you seek. Gotta have a Duster, find friends that are die hard B body guys!!
When I am looking hard for an X, I never stumble on it. Then when I care less, there they are and cheap enough!!! Patience!
Here in the South, out sheet metal outlives our engines. Good in a way, till you realize 99% of 60 year old cars have rust somewhere!!! And like said, finding a GOOD running engine is WAY harder than it used to be just a few years ago, and the good ones are more costly. Everything costs more!
Patience is always a key. Always be on the look. Always spend time making friends in the hobby. Find friends that are not into big blocks IF that is what you seek. Gotta have a Duster, find friends that are die hard B body guys!!
When I am looking hard for an X, I never stumble on it. Then when I care less, there they are and cheap enough!!! Patience!
i'd take a multi colored car over a chicken wire and bondo homecoming float any day of the week.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Why not? I submit for approval one of the best looking cars on FABO. @Turbo440Dart multicolored awesomeness.
I’d sell my kids for a car that cool.
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shittyslant6
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patience is definitely the key to building something on a budget. I bought my first 4bbl carb from a scratch and dent discount store in town. it was a marine qft 600cfm black anodized. it was half off. (after running the pos 2bbl for a while.)I admit to being an old guy, I try not to live in the Mopar world of the 90s, but fact is that supply of decent projects priced "correctly" in the market, keeps getting smaller and smaller. Like already said,decent Duster projects have really gotten higher and scarcer in the last 5-6 years for sure. And then there is the mentality of "I know what I have and the price ain't coming down!" at least around here.
Here in the South, out sheet metal outlives our engines. Good in a way, till you realize 99% of 60 year old cars have rust somewhere!!! And like said, finding a GOOD running engine is WAY harder than it used to be just a few years ago, and the good ones are more costly. Everything costs more!
Patience is always a key. Always be on the look. Always spend time making friends in the hobby. Find friends that are not into big blocks IF that is what you seek. Gotta have a Duster, find friends that are die hard B body guys!!
When I am looking hard for an X, I never stumble on it. Then when I care less, there they are and cheap enough!!! Patience!
Also, ingenuity is the other key to cheap building. I had a 60s mustang radiator in my car a friend gave me for free in my car before I pulled weeds in my backyard to earn a cheap ebay aluminum radiator my parents helped me buy.
I'm not saying that things haven't gone up in price, but there are still ways around it. Instead of trying to get a 70 duster or demon, get a 75 dart or scamp or something. while ugly, it will be cheaper then change the nose later.
Dodge dart 1974 $2000. 225 motor 6 cilindros
this is a b body but its still a mopar
1964 Dodge sedan
1960 Plymouth valiant
1965 Plymouth valiant · 4 door
1972 gold duster
1966 Plymouth Barracuda V8 I might acutally go look at this one
1970 Dodge Dart · SE Sedan 4D
This guy will trade for a 450cc dirtbike. interior is mint
1973 Plymouth Valiant
At least my car is actually all metal.
Well, you were an a-hole for your opinion. Your first post was completely disrespectful to the OP and his father, and there was no reason for it. You could have maintained your opinion that he didn't have the budget and shouldn't start the project without mentioning anything less than a "premium build" not being good enough to honor his father.
It's funny that people blame entitlement on the younger generations, because clearly as an older gentlemen you think your ability to have an opinion doesn't mean that you can't also be a disrespectful *** for having the one you have, or stating it the way that you did.
His first post was completely disrespectful of the OP's father. Sorry, but I did read my post, I meant every word I said, and what it is posted here is the toned down version. Dude was being completely disrespectful, and it's not the first time either. Perhaps I should have tried to take the high road and not mentioned his father as well, but I did the best I could, I'm not perfect and as someone who has lost my father as well I wasn't going to let him slide with that bullshit. He could have taken the high road too, and he went even lower.
He's still mad that I called him out on his chicken wire, fiberglass and bondo con-job quarter panel repair as not being "preservation" like he claims, or that a "no-weld" condition is a silly thing to put on a car that needs legitimate rust repair. So he's trying to poke at me for my car being two different colors for the last 11 or 12 years while I've been driving it all the time.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
I considered that 72 duster for a good long while.patience is definitely the key to building something on a budget. I bought my first 4bbl carb from a scratch and dent discount store in town. it was a marine qft 600cfm black anodized. it was half off. (after running the pos 2bbl for a while.)
Also, ingenuity is the other key to cheap building. I had a 60s mustang radiator in my car a friend gave me for free in my car before I pulled weeds in my backyard to earn a cheap ebay aluminum radiator my parents helped me buy.
I'm not saying that things haven't gone up in price, but there are still ways around it. Instead of trying to get a 70 duster or demon, get a 75 dart or scamp or something. while ugly, it will be cheaper then change the nose later.
Dodge dart 1974 $2000. 225 motor 6 cilindros
this is a b body but its still a mopar
1964 Dodge sedan
1960 Plymouth valiant
1965 Plymouth valiant · 4 door
1972 gold duster
1966 Plymouth Barracuda V8 I might acutally go look at this one
1970 Dodge Dart · SE Sedan 4D
This guy will trade for a 450cc dirtbike. interior is mint
1973 Plymouth Valiant
shittyslant6
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This is in no way an attack on anyone; but if people keep perpetuating the myth that building cars and especially mopars takes a wheelbarrow full of cash, all the new people interested in these cars will get discouraged and not even try. then the hobby will slowly die off and there will be nobody to take it further. everything can be done cheap, and mostly safe.
shittyslant6
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that barracuda is pretty nice, there's one around me for 3k with a 273. the guy has been flaking on me but he's a friend of a friend and its not listed anywhere so eventually I'll look at it.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
If I had a picture of your car I’d submit it as the second best looking car on fabo. I love your car. It’s so well done, and you drive the crap out of it. What the hobby SHOULD be about.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
If you’re serious there is a much nicer one near me that’s in better shape and probably cheaper. Next time I drive past it I’ll get some pics.
shittyslant6
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well once I get back to work Ill go back on the hunt more seriously. right now Im technically disabled due to a "hernia"..
Your idea of respect is completely different than mine , you lost mine when you spouted off and called me an A-hole.
I've seen some of your replies in various threads, the net gives you the freedom to grow 6", gain 100#'s and spout off.
You will have a hard time finding a thread where I pump my chest and throw insults or call names.
I completely agree, and that's the issue with some of the purists that are constantly discouraging of anyone that isn't doing some full OE, concourse level restoration.
I've seen so many people get an old project car that's probably not all that far from being safely on the road get it home and immediately tear it completely apart and start what is going to be a years long project that they may never finish, because they think they need to have some perfectly polished show level car. Because there are still WAY too many purists and show car types out there looking down their noses. And then those same guys start threads on here about how the "hobby is dying" all the time.
I'd much rather see someone take a car that's not perfect, put the time and effort in it to get it running and back on the road, and drive it. Because then you're actually seeing these cars on the road, and making the memories that makes the next generation want to do the same. The problem is, for all the people that think it's great to see an old car on the road, there's all those guys that perpetuate the nonsense by asking crap like "when are you going to paint it" or "why didn't you do it all at once". Well, because I like driving my car and I don't care if it doesn't look cosmetically perfect because I'm not trying to impress anyone. I like driving it, and as long as it functions I don't need perfect form.
Thank you sir! I love driving my car, and I love talking to people about it in person. Because while there are some people that ask silly questions, most people in person aren't as condescending or disrespectful. Many are just so happy to see something different!
Again, your first post was dripping condescension and disrespect. Yes, I took it personally because your suggestion about what would be appropriate to honor YOUR father flies directly in the face of everything I learned from mine.
So yes, maybe I read into it more than I should have. But I know for a fact this isn't the first time you've been condescending and discouraging to people with projects, nor is the the first time I've said something about it. Maybe my responses are more passionate, but I'd rather have that than your constant air of condescension.
The thing about purists is, everything they know is in the FSM, and you can get that without the attitude.
As for the rest of it, I absolutely promise I would say everything I've said directly to your face as well. Your implied threat would go no where if we were in person.
shittyslant6
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That's the whole reason I don't go to car shows. When I first got my car I had got the slant running for the first time in 40 YEARS and I took it to a car show after working on it for months getting around the shipping delays around that time.(I was 16) The only people that thought it was cool were a group of 13 year olds. All the old guys with cars restored in the 90s did whas pick it apart and say **** like "you need to paint it." "It has a lot of rust, why did you get this one". EVERY CAR SHOW. So I stopped taking it to car shows and just cruised it around town. Don't get me started on car clubs.I completely agree, and that's the issue with some of the purists that are constantly discouraging of anyone that isn't doing some full OE, concourse level restoration.
I've seen so many people get an old project car that's probably not all that far from being safely on the road get it home and immediately tear it completely apart and start what is going to be a years long project that they may never finish, because they think they need to have some perfectly polished show level car. Because there are still WAY too many purists and show car types out there looking down their noses. And then those same guys start threads on here about how the "hobby is dying" all the time.
I'd much rather see someone take a car that's not perfect, put the time and effort in it to get it running and back on the road, and drive it. Because then you're actually seeing these cars on the road, and making the memories that makes the next generation want to do the same. The problem is, for all the people that think it's great to see an old car on the road, there's all those guys that perpetuate the nonsense by asking crap like "when are you going to paint it" or "why didn't you do it all at once". Well, because I like driving my car and I don't care if it doesn't look cosmetically perfect because I'm not trying to impress anyone. I like driving it, and as long as it functions I don't need perfect form.
Thank you sir! I love driving my car, and I love talking to people about it in person. Because while there are some people that ask silly questions, most people in person aren't as condescending or disrespectful. Many are just so happy to see something different!
Again, your first post was dripping condescension and disrespect. Yes, I took it personally because your suggestion about what would be appropriate to honor YOUR father flies directly in the face of everything I learned from mine.
So yes, maybe I read into it more than I should have. But I know for a fact this isn't the first time you've been condescending and discouraging to people with projects, nor is the the first time I've said something about it. Maybe my responses are more passionate, but I'd rather have that than your constant air of condescension.
The thing about purists is, everything they know is in the FSM, and you can get that without the attitude.
As for the rest of it, I absolutely promise I would say everything I've said directly to your face as well. Your implied threat would go no where if we were in person.
OK tough guy. lol
Fortunately there aren't too many like him here, but unfortunately he is. He has no intention of posting on point or even understanding the situation someone else might be in. He isn't competent enough to post in accordance with a no weld thread and is not competent enough to understand the situation the OP of this thread is in.
He says - " But I know for a fact this isn't the first time you've been condescending and discouraging to people with projects... " which is about all he does and he is of little help to anyone and is no help to many.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
That’s exactly why I would take it to car shows. I love talking to guys like that. Usually it doesn’t take much to put em in their place. I use questions like “who did you pay to build your motor?”
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
This is very untrue. The amount of factual, useful, helpful information posted by @72bluNblu on this site is astounding. Do some research.
Yes but people also need to realise that cheap means its not a 10 second show car. Also to do cheap now you need to be able to do all aspects of the build the second you involve a professional to do anything the cost goes through the roof. I have built cars from ground up but simply dont have the time anymore so happy to pay for body work etc. If i was trying to do it all my self would never get finished as many under estimate how many hours it takes.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
I dont disagree with that, but the op said nothing of his ability or skill so we shouldn’t assume he can’t. After all he did say “want to BUILD a duster to run on a budget” so we at least should assume that by “build” he has some ability.
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